What has the Democrat Party done for America?

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  1. Vet1966

    Vet1966 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The many and varied successes of Donald Trump and the Republican party are out there for all to see - from tax cuts for everyone to the booming economy to record setting low unemployment to a growing world peace.

    Where have the Democrats been through all of this? What have they done to improve the life of working American families? Why can't they stem the murder and crime rates in the inner cities? Why do they favor the welfare of illegal aliens over the needs of all Americans? Why can't they cooperate with the opposition on those things that would make life better for everyone? Why do they oppose and obstruct the Trump agenda, no matter how much pain they cause themselves and their constituents?

    The Democrats were once a party who championed the working family - especially the blue collar families; yet they have deserted those who were and in many cases, still are loyal to them.

    The Democrats say they are for all of those things that are good for the working American family - yet they suffer systemic failure after systemic failure when it comes to following through on their campaign promises - just as were the Republicans before Trump.

    Maxine Waters and her constant tirades of "impeachment" and "attack Republicans"
    Nancy Pelosi and her need to talk about tax increases,
    Chuck Schumer and his 48 lying, decietful morons.
    Words and more words and even more words telling everyone how much they care for America and the American working families while all of their actions tell us that they favor illegal aliens, sanctuary cities, crime and disorder and a deep disdain for traditional American values.

    Thank God we elected President Trump or we'd be getting more of the same from the Republicans. The Republican Party is being made into a people party again.

    How do we get the Democrats to come back to America and those values that once made it the party that brought us FDR and JFK.

    Or should we dump the Democrat Party and start all over again.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    A Civil War, the KKK, BLM, Antifa,.....etc.....
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Riots, looting and burning of buildings.
     
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    Poverty, wage freezes, interment camps. Higher cost of living.
     
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    Democratic leaders should try their best to answer the question. It's pretty easy for people to sit out elections once you tell them how certain Democratic stances clash with their religious, economic (e.g. pro NAFTA, pro illegal immigration), or social beliefs. For example, Hillary's stance that a woman should be able to have an abortion in the 3rd trimester was scary as hell to many once they were made aware of it. Many felt supporting such a candidate would leave them hellbound.
     
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    I am sorry but what has the republican party done for this country in my lifetime of 65 years. Increased Defense spending, cut social programs, opposed civil rights legislation, want to treat gays as a different class of citizens, brought us a war in Iraq, went against the poor populations of central America in their pursuit of free elections. Funded the contras with drug money sold in poor neighborhoods. Opposed every environmental bill, Believe me their is enough of the blame pie to go around.

    I remember the late 60s when you were cautioned not to go outside on bad smog days, and the republicans in congress still voted against measures to decrease the smog. Same with the Water, I could only imagine how filthy our country would be if the conservatives prevailed. .
     
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    What we should be asking ourselves why do we give credence to the clamors of both ends of the spectrum. You cut the clamor from the left and right most 10% and the country could proceed forward without much discourse. Both fringes want to live in a world where the other 90% don't want to.
    I hardly see any middle of the road proponents here at all.

    It is like there are no good ideas on the left or the right, but only radical views should be held that suit that side of the isle.
     
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    One side is far more extreme than the other and it's been that way for decades.
     
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    Pants Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if you were really asking for accomplishments, but here are a few:

    Social Security Act
    GI Bill
    Civil Rights Act
    Voting Rights Act
    Medicare
     
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    All one has to do is compare what the dems stand for and what the repubs stand for and pick a party. As that comparison takes place over time more and more people are changing to the republican party. Those who remain with the dems are being swayed by the slick politicians and the liberal media or they are socialist at heart because they can't compete in the real world.
     
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    What have Democrats given America? Recovery from the Great Depression and the Great Recession. Social Security, minimum wage, child labor laws, Voters Rights Act, Civil Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid, environmental laws, banking laws, FDIC, and the list goes on. Republicans opposed, vigorously, all these acts and laws.

    Americans wouldn't want to live in this country if Republicans successfully blocked all these Democratic contributions to our nation and its people.
     
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  12. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    2 world wars....
     
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    The DP is the dominant evil party. The RP has evolved into the DP's passive partner in crime. Hence Trump.

    “[T]he running existential contradictions of D.C., a place where “authenticity and fantasy are close companions”, as the Washington Post’s Henry Allen once wrote. It misses that the city, far from being hopelessly divided, is in fact hopelessly interconnected. It misses the degree to which New Media has democratized the political conversation while accentuating Washington's insular, myopic, and self loving tendencies. It misses, most of all, a full examination of how Washington may not serve the country well but has, in fact, worked splendidly for Washington itself– A city of beautifully busy people constantly writing the story of their own lives.” Mark Leibovich, This Town, Penguin Books, 2013, p. 10.
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, yeah, I forgot. The Kaiser, Hitler, Tojo, and Mussolini were Democrats. Thank's for clearing that up for me.
     
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    Woodrow wilson and fdr were democrats.

    i find it interesting you seem to think The Kaiser, Hitler, Tojo, and Mussolini were Americans.....
     
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    Whoa. What you say is correct. And remember it was Lincoln the republican who freed the slaves. But that was yesterday. Look what the democrats represent today -- eliminating ICE, open borders, higher taxes, more welfare, abortion on demand, gun control, undermanned military, unfair trade, guilty without evidence. You side with all that then feel free to defend the democratic party. Just be honest about it.
     
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    I mean, there's a list.. right? Who can forget Jim Crowe laws? Think Woodrow would be welcome by folks like Kamala and Cory these days? How about population control through abortion? Margret Sanger anyone? Or who could forget the internment in concentration camps for the Japanese CITIZENS of the US under FDR. Yes, democrats all. It's such an awesome list of achievements...
     
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    WW II and the business cycle ended the Great Depression that was caused by the Federal Reserve, Income Tax, corrupt government regulation. The Great Recession was also caused by the corrupt partnership of crooked bureaucrats and crony capitalists.

    “Under [James Arthur] Johnson, Fannie Mae led the way in encouraging loose lending practices among the Banks whose loans the company bought. A Pied Piper of the financial sector, Johnson led both the private and public sectors down a path that led directly to the credit crisis of 2008. It took more than a decade to assemble the machinery needed to create the housing mania. But it took only a year or two for the juggernaut to collapse in the heap, destroying millions of jobs and retirement accounts, and devastating borrowers. After years of crisis coverage in the media, multiple government investigations, and numerous books on the topic, Johnson's role in the mortgage maelstrom has escaped scrutiny. Remarkably, his reputation as a mover and shaker in both business and government remains largely intact, even after the September 2008 taxpayer takeover of an insolvent Fannie Mae, at a cost of hundreds of billions of dollars. ”RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT, by Gretchen Morgenson and Joshua Rosner, Times Books 2011, p. 10-11.

    The Social Security Administration delivers inadequate "security" at great cost. It is a slush fund for the corrupt bipartisan ruling political class - a boondoggle.

    The Minimum Wage has eliminated millions of jobs and idled generations of workers driving them into permanent poverty while diluting the political power and influence of the working class.

    Progressive Republicans, like Nixon, Roosevelt and The Bushes actively supported the expansion of the Federal Alphabet State that has served the interests of the Political Class at the expense of ordinary American citizens. I wish all this failure and corruption could all be blamed exclusively on the DP, but that is a fantasy.
     
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    There are going to be missteps by each side. In order to have an honest discussion, we have to acknowledge that. Lists have already been provided by posters about Democratic accomplishments. I think it would be an excellent exercise for a list of Republican accomplishments to be detailed.
     
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    A governing political class will never have any interest in actually solving problems.
     
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    1. Crushed the the DP slave state, the CSA
    2. The Panama Canal
    3. The 1964 Civil Rights Act
    4. ...................
     
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    Democrats and republicans are just two sides of the same coin. They both over-spend. They've both got us involved in foreign wars that could have been avoided. They both have numerous members who have ended up in prison or been hounded out of office on ethics charges. They are both too tribal for the good of the country. Reagan increased the debt by a larger percentage than any other modern President with input from both parties. Obama increased the debt by a larger dollar amount than any other modern President with input from both parties.

    Trying to point fingers at which is worse is just an exercise in pathetic tribal bullcrap.
     
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    Taken credit for the civil Rights movement
     
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    A ruling political class ultimately always works as a unit for its own interests and usually against the interests of the people.

    “Thus, then, the matters stood at the end of 1932 as Hoover prepared to move out of the White House. The Chamber of Commerce and what is called Big Business had a program which included (1) modification of the Sherman antitrust law; (2) self rule by trade associations under codes of practice to regulate production, prices, and trade practices; (3) authority to shorten hours and establish minimum wages; (4) a long-term plan for setting up unemployment, disability, and old age insurance.” Forgotten Lessons, Selected essays, John T. Flynn, Gregory P. Pavlik Editor, Irvington-On-Hudson, NY, 1996, p14.
     
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    What I find amazing is you think those two Democrats started any world wars.
     

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