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  1. usda_select

    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    What if the DNC office in downtown Washington had been broken into and all of the things that were released by the hackers were copied and published? The pages were just gotten out of an unlocked file cabinet instead of a computer.

    Would Trump supporters admit there was a crime committed then?

    I think many would. For those that would not, how is it different if you do it electronically?
     
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    You mean Watergate II? I suppose Trump will have to resign and Pence would then get all the blame.
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That would be fine, (I'm not a Trump "supporter"), but the "thieves" aren't or weren't part of Trump's campaign crew, so, I guess I'm not following how it would matter as it would relate to Trump.
     
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    If they weren't broken in by Trump's campaign crew, then I suppose Putin will get all the blame (Disclaimer:I don't have an opinion on Putin one way or the other)
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We are about to see a huge scandal unfold.... But it won't be aimed at Trump.

    The Senate Intelligence Committee is not made up of spineless waifs like the House Intelligence Committee is. And there is way too much of a paper trail.

    I expect to see some of Obama's minions face some serious consequences over the coming months.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lolz at non-reality based hypotheticas.

    Who's saying there was a crime committed?

    Who's saying it was not?

    Should we ignore revelations because lefties don't like it?
     
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    No, they wouldn't care. These are people who don't care that he's a proven pathological liar, that's he's run scam businesses bilking desperate people out of their money, that he's bankrupted company after company and used taxpayer money to bail himself out, that he openly brags about grabbing married women's pu$$ies, that for years he openly bragged about cheating on his wife, that he openly bragged about getting to see teenage beauty pageant contestants naked, that he has the temperament of a petulant, spoiled 9 year old child, that he is stunningly unread and ignorant, that he can't formulate simple sentences and apparently only knows 25 actual words, that he has zero principles or morals, that as president he will lash out against Meryl Streep and call our intelligence officers Nazi's, but refuses to lavish anything but praise for a murderous dictator like Putin.

    And on and on I could go.

    Bottom line, they don't care. The ONLY thing that would ever make them dump trump is if he stopped feeding them their daily dose of white nationalist red meat, as that's all the Trump "movement" has ever been about.
     
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    BobbySerious Banned

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    "Who's saying there was a crime committed?"

    The FBI launched a criminal investigation into the Russian hack and Trump & crews involvement. Such an investigation REQUIRES evidence to support a reasonable suspicion that a crime may have been committed.

    But for the FBI to do this against a sitting president, and admit it publicly...and now with leaks stating the FBI has the goods on collusion....."lolz" me thinks you mindless cult members better start emotionally preparing for not just Trumps impeachment, but possible jailing.
     
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    I love "What If" games.

    What IF it turns out that the Obama admin did wiretap PRESIDENT Trump?
    What IF it turns out that the Clinton Foundation was used as a slush fund for Hillary and Bill?

    What if, what if, what if.. Want to play?
     
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    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    Hacking is a crime.
    Are you stating that the DNC and Mr. Podesta were not hacked?
     
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    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    Sure, kindly answer my question first. How is hacking your computer different than someone coming into your house and opening up a file cabinet and grabbing your personal information with their hands.
     
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    Strange how the minute you mention Trump, those that support the pervert immediately invoke others.

    I thought you guys were alleging Trump was somehow better than those in the past. If you are making such a ridiculous allegation—why do you keep rationalizing his behaviors by stating that others have done the same thing?

    Hmm?
     
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    The question isn't a question of crime, it is a question of attachment to the Trump campaign.

    If it is proven the Russians hacked the Democrats and released the info, but there is no link between this and anyone in the US, what do you think should happen and why?
     
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    Has someone suggested that there was no crime committed in the hacking of the DNC computers? If so, I haven't seen it.

    Personally, I think addressing what the hacks revealed is far more important to our country than the hacks themselves. Hack attempts are ALWAYS occurring and will always continue. Securing our systems from hackers is always a prime directive. Prosecuting hackers should always be a priority, as should be prosecuting the negligent handling of systems and data, when that occurs.

    The revelation that the DNC and corrupt democrats colluded with the MSM to try to fix the election should be orders of magnitude more important to the democrat constituency than the hacks. They took your choice away from you, and conducted a sham primary in which the winner was pre-selected, and there was nothing democrat voters could do to change the outcome. This should outrage you.

    The democrats focus seems to be making sure the corruption can be hidden better in the future, rather than acknowledging and fixing the corruption that was revealed.
     
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    I don't play the "What If" political game. That is a rabbit hole with no end.

    But hacking and breaking and entering are pretty much the same thing. Pretty much like being an illegal alien or being here illegally.
     
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    Im saying even if they were hacked-that the contents of the hacks will not be ignored.
     
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    Uhhh…Roger Stone admits to sharing tweets with the hacker whom the intel agencies said did the hacking. Roger stone tweeted that Podesta was about to have his “turn in the barrel”. Assuming he isn’t talking about some carnival act that Podesta was involved in…he knew what Guccifer was up to.

    So there is a link.

    What do I think should happen?

    The President should admit that his campaign coordinated with Russian hackers to sway the electorate. You know…be honest. We all know that Mr. Trump has no capacity for honesty.
     
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    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    Strange…you ended your previous message with “Wanna play” and you said you “love What if games”

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    So Roger Stone, according to you, was swapping tweets (by his own admission) with a criminal; right?
     
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    Assuming this is all true, it only shows someone was aware. It doesn't prove coordination.
     
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    Good point. The point of the thread was to get someone to post exactly what you did.

    You guys admit there was a crime.

    Now, lets move from there. Roger Stone—advisor to Mr. Trump—admits to having exchanged tweets with the hacker/criminal. And even posted that Podesta was going to be hacked BEFORE the hacks of his Gmail account was released.

    http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/10/12

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    Just out of curiosity since I’m playing with House money now…should Stone have his credentials revoked and be barred from the White House?

    Given your post about the utmost security needing to be instituted to make sure our institutions are no longer hacked…why does Trump have a friend that has this backchannel to Wikileaks—the place where our secrets are aired in public over and over.
     
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    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    Well, in the first place it is true…Roger admits it himself.

    Secondly, if you’re aware of a crime about to be committed and you’re also committed to free and fair elections in the US—what the pervert in the White House called our “sacred elections”…don’t you have a responsibility to notify someone…the NSA for example, that you know this Hacker is going to hack John Podesta’s G-mail Account?
     

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