What, in your opinion, are the odds of a civil war in America in the next 10 years?

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What, in your opinion, are the odds of a civil war in America in the next 10 years?

  1. 0%

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    46.2%
  2. 1-10%

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    23.1%
  3. 11-20%

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  4. 21-30%

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  5. 31-40%

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  6. 41-50%

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  7. 51-60%

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  8. 61-70%

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  9. 71-80%

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  10. 81-90%

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  11. 91-99%

    2 vote(s)
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  12. 100%

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    How does this change Trump negotiating our withdraw, freeing thousands of Taliban, and freely admitting he knew that use leaving would mean that the Afghan government would fall?
     
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    Why are you taking umbrage at a description of your political views? And how is it pejorative if it's true? Is describing a commie as a Maoist or Trotskyite somehow insulting? I missed that memo. Or are you perhaps ashamed of your support for Trump?

    Just so you're aware, I'm no lefty. I don't like Trump, i think Biden is an incompetent, Obama and Bill clinton were dishonest and Bush II was stupid. We haven't had a decent POTUS since Bush I and Reagan was our last truly great one.

    That's just it. it wasn't simply a demonstration. Demonstrators don't occupy and trash buildings. Demonstrators don't carry weapons.

    Epps is or was an Oath Keeper. He was President of the Oath Keepers in AZ. He worked with the founder, Stewart Rhodes. There is a photo of the two standing side by side at a funeral in 2011. It seems like pretty deep cover to blow on a scam, especially one that depended on timing and a particular set of circumstances.

    Occam's Razor says the simplest solution is the most likely. A conspiracy such as the one you would have us believe happened here has too many moving parts and unlikely coincidences to be believable. It also begs the question of who profited? What would Biden gain with such a massive effort? It would have to be something bigger than discrediting a POTUS who was already on his way out. Your theory is wildly implausible. Can you back it up with some kind of reputable source?
     
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    Mr. Trump held a rally at noon at which he encouraged the demonstrators (they were still demonstrators at that point) to march to the Capitol. At 12:53 P.M. the rioters (at this point they became rioters) overwhelmed the police line on the West side of the Capitol. By 1:03 they overran three layers of barricades and forced the cops to the bottom of the West side steps. It really looks to me like what happened was Trump's fault, maybe even his idea. I hate to think that he would be so reckless as to risk other people's lives in that way, but there it is.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    CONSPIRACIES are NOT "issues", they are just bovine excrement that needs to be FLUSHED into the SEWER where it belongs.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Your OPINION is just that!

    DOMESTIC TERRORISTS used VIOLENCE in order to IMPOSE their NEFARIOUS agenda of OVERTHROWING the government of We the People on 1/6/21.

    FACTS matter, opinions DON'T.
     
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    WHY are you still REGURGITATING that DEBUNKED extremist rightwing DISINFORMATION?

    It was RACIST white Supremacists like the Boogaloo Bois who were doing the RIOTING and LOOTING.

    FACTS matter!
     
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    The Extremist rightwing DISINFORMATION is ENDLESS but that is NOT any excuse to BELIEVE any of their DEBUNKED bovine excrement FALSEHOODS.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    :applause:
     
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    WRONG!

    YOUR biggest *LOSER* did say that.

    https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

     
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    Exactly!

    When you add the emotive rabble rousing tone intended to inflame the senses of a crowd already angry because they have been told endless lies that something was "stolen" from them it is little wonder that they turned in a violent mob.
     
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    The Jan 6 committee results should prove very interesting. The files that Trump is fighting to keep out of their hands and out of public knowledge should shed some light on Trump's involvement in it all and his attitude toward the violence before, during and after.
     
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    Since the GOP Senate ABDICATED their duty to We the People the court of public opinion will finally get to hear the evidence and be able to judge for themselves.

    I am expecting that there is going to be some things that are revealed that will leave the GOP wishing that they had retained control of what was happening in a Senate impeachment trial.

    Now they are just going to have to suck it up and deal with the consequences. I expect to see weasels like Lindsay Graham backpedaling away from his biggest *LOSER* as fast as he can.
     
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    Over the years I have learned not to underestimate the ignorance of the extreme far right and have come to understand that many confuse their traitorous ways for patriotism, thus a cannot put the % as zero.
     
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    Somehow I doubt that even these revelations will change many minds. Trumpers already deny basic reality and assert their own in its place. It's all about power for them. They hate and fear Democrats so much that they'd support a known serial killer if he or she made the right promises and ran for president, and that lamprey Lindsay would latch himself right onto his/her ass accordingly.
     
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    So... now you read minds? Or do you just make up this stuff to make him look bad?
     
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    What FACTS there do you disagree with? Are you too afraid to discuss the specifics? Why are you s afraid to discuss the specifics? Because you know its all true?
     
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    What EXACTLY has been "debunked"? Be aware I can prove every line of that post. Why are you so afraid to discuss specifics?
     
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    Oh... so it was white racists that burned cities and looted stores from coast to coast all because a black man died? Really? That's beyond the ken. But run with that if you like.
     
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    So a small group occupying ONE BUILDING is seen in your mind as an effort to overthrow the whole US government? LOL... ok.... dream on with that.
     
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    Trump urged a peaceful demonstration at the capitol... yes. The entry into the building was incited by dem agitators like Roy Epps.
     
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    I look forward to the actual charges.
     
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    Pence had no authority to install Trump. Pence could tabulate votes and if the congress approved, send the matter back to states to make decisions.
     
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    Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.... remember the basics?
     
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    as an expert about Real Estate and the schools, will you please listen to me as the expert here?
    This is multi layered.
    A school had started up prior to Trump hearing of it.
    I warn others when I hear of such clowns.
    If you are learning how to flip houses, they do not tell you the entire story. Mr. and Mrs. Average should not get involved.
    Trump decided to be involved. As to the day to day operations, what I learned was others ran it day to day.
    Trump made a mistake. Trump also paid from his own pocket restitution.
    That was the extent of what Trump was asked to do by a court. And he did take care of it.
     

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