What is a "microaggression"?

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  1. Rainbow Crow

    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    I'm trying to get a better understanding of the "microaggressions" that normal people unconsciously impose upon progressives et al. Apparently a microaggression doesn't require conscious effort on the part of the perpetrator. What's going on here, can anyone explain?
     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    I say something you don't agree with>>> microaggression.
     
  3. Rainbow Crow

    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    Haha, it probably is that simple. I'm also wondering how a person might stage a "microdefense" against a microaggression that the aggressor is not aware they made.
     
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    I had to research it a bit to get an idea of what was intended. I would do such a thing because I understand our unconscious existence better than most people.

    Right off it sounded like an unconscious action when you stated people do not need to do it consciously to be guilty of it.

    My take is that labeling such unconscious actions as derogatory is a VERY slippery slope. There is more than a single reason for that.

    First issue, we do not know enough or accept enough about our unconscious existence to functionally help someone one stop doing it. Second, we cannot stop such things from being taught to children. Third, it's based most often with instinctual responses of some sort, so is completely natural, mostly. Forth, because of the first issue, even pointing out microagression IS aggressive.

    The only way to deal with it is by example, which pretty muchsays there needs to be a RESPECTED division of society that models behavior free of microagression. Good luck with that!

    Curiously my research led to sexual objectification of women, because that is probably one if the most common forms we will find. On the page I found it was stated this is a major complaint of feminists.

    I've tried to communicate with feminists about seeing our society develops methods of treating the unconscious mind to prevent the targeting of women for rape and mass murder. Such has been common where I am in Santa Barbara, or more specifically Isla Vista, a very densely populated college town nearby.

    http://qz.com/213553/what-isla-vista-shooter-horrific-manifesto-my-twisted-world-says-about-values/

    The attempt was on MS magazine. They censored all of it!

    This was an earlier event based in similar unconscious obsession.

    http://www.independent.com/news/2014/may/24/isla-vista-shooting-echoes-david-attias/

    The way I see it, to understand aggression very subtle stemming from unconscious compulsion, the most logical avenue is to start with something of extreme aggression that is similar based in the unconscious.

    Was that censorship microagression in response to effort to address microagression, or very serious, exaggerated symptoms of it, with improvement of the field of psychology by using law?

    It seems we are not developed enough as a society to even point it out functionally if we cannot discuss how extremes, perhaps created by it, might be addressed legally by compelling courts under applicable law to in turn compel psychology to examine the unconscious mind.
     
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    Certainly you researched this and know what it is already.

    If you want an example towards progressives though you could say that people referring to anyone on the left as a "liberal" would be an example of micro aggression. The term "liberal" has a bit of a negative connotation in todays society and that term is often thrown out, to group people together, in a negative light even though no such action is intended. By subconsciously labeling a person or group, the person using that term is attributing a negative connotation to them.

    The left does this with the Tea Party label also so it works both ways. Some of it is intended to be negative but some is not.
     
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    In thinking about this, the terms "mindreading" and "passive aggressive" come up to me. I realize people who consider themselves minorities have sensitivities, but many times others are just making clumsy efforts to be friendly.

    What is less understood is that people who do not consider themselves a part of a so-called minority, but instead part of a great, anonymous, amorphous, nonsupportive "other" also have issues, which are rarely understood or supported either.

    In political discussion, though, to me, labels are just another way of invalidating, oversimplifying, and ending logical discussion, and are rarely inadvertent.
     
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    VERY good point! Labeling is a cognitive distortion and we see many more such distortions used in partisan bickering.

    When you say "way of invalidating, oversimplifying, and ending logical discussion, " you are describing text book definitions of the effects of the cognitive distortions of; all or nothing thinking, over generalization, minimizing, labeling and emotional reasoning. They are used essentially to avoid actual understanding.

    I catch people here doing it frequently and they are not at all open to discussing it. The phenomena appears to be unconscious and learned from social interaction within groups.

    What is interesting is that often there is complaint about violation of one principle or another. Then, when effort is made to engage discussion on directly upholding the principle by social expression in activism, no logical discussion can be elicited.

    I would say that complaint based distortions have been made a social meme. And, because the complaint is based in distortions, there is not enough understanding formed to discuss corrective measure to protect the principles perceived as violated.
     
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    Being offended by something someone says without any intent to offend you. The implication being everyone else should not say whatever you dont like instead of growing a thicker skin.

    This trend currently of making peoples feelings paramount over other peoples freedom of speech is worrying to me and is another reason i really dont like the modern left wing.
     
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    I'm going to take the liberty of rephrasing this post because vital context is missing, which is actually disturbing.

    Being offended by something someone wrote which was from an unconscious social pattern of behavior is nonsensical. But if you are not aware, you get played and can play back. The implication being everyone else should ignore the actual discussion so the true nature of the problem is neglected, instead, they imply in another cognitive distortion of "entitlement" that one should grow a thicker skin.

    That actual understanding be bypassed is the intention of the meme of discussion. It could very well be taught by covert groups modeling the dysfunctional and pretending it is functional and rewarding attempting to condition the unwitting participant lured into playing the game, so that such exchanges become the norm.

     
  10. Rainbow Crow

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    Okay so, how much microaggression is being displayed in this song and music video?

    [video=youtube;xt0V0_1MS0Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt0V0_1MS0Q[/video]
     
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    Blond jokes are a micro aggression.

    Blond jokes exist because blonds have the most sex of anyone, so there's some envy there.
     
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    IMHO, it's bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Basically, it's a way to imply some kind of offense is being done when nothing offensive is truly being done.
     
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    Sorry, Freddie Mercury was gay. Does not compute. In fact your even suggesting this is microaggressive. Please proceed to Loyal-Think Pod 923 for microeducation.
     
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    Thank you, now that I have received a better microeducation I know where I went microwrong and it won't microhappen again.
     
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    But, you don't have to say anything. It can be a look. It can be that the liberal thought you looked. It could be because you didn't say something. Someone said I was being aggressive one day and I said, "And what are you being?" "Assertive."

    Isn't it wonderful when you've been assigned the responsibility of saying what words mean. And looks. Don't forget looks.
     
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    I'm sorry that liberals see the word liberal as negative. Of course, socialist is also negative. Communist is negative. Leftists is negative. Democrat is negative.

    Is it micro-aggression to call Roman Polanski a pedophile or Bill Clinton a sexual predator or Charlie Rangel a tax cheat or Al Sharpton an extortionist. Those are fairly negative terms for people who aren't liberals.
     
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    I'm feeling micropressed
     
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    A penis is a microagression and so are breasts.

    So people have to compensation with macrosensitivites and macroactions.
     
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    Or perhaps that no offense has been intended. It is a problem for women in higher education when people do not take what they say with the same weight as they would that same argument coming out of a man's mouth, and female professors are the same as male professors in that regard, so it is something that is, to a certain degree, a cultural bias.
     
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    There's a word for this too, it's called "madeupgression."
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) basically.

    It's just another excuse to beat up on people for being honest and free instead of walking on egg shells to appease the victicrats.
     
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    I am sorry. I could not hear you based on the sound your bias and ignorance made crashing against the rocks:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/educatio...-in-business-school-admit-the-problem/279740/

    ...A pressing problem triggered the school’s self-examination: Year after year, women were entering the MBA program with the same test scores, experiences, achievements, and aptitudes as men but then receiving lower grades. As a result, far fewer women were attaining the Baker Scholar distinction of being in the top five percent of the class—a prestigious award that opens doors to jobs and career opportunities. Did women’s lower grades suggest something in the school’s culture might still be limiting women even 50 years after they were first admitted?...
     
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    It's great how the internet frees me to be honest. I really don't respect women trying to get a high level MBA etc. This is because my values presume that someone should want to have children and if this woman is seeking an MBA instead of having children, I'm going to presume she's doesn't share my values. If she doesn't share my values there is probably less I have to gain in emulating her. So why should I care what she has to say?

    I guess this is unfair because liberals view their own extinction as righteous and want to be secular Jesus, martyred on the cross of their own bad ideas. I shed a tear for them, you can't see it but it happened and that tear landed on some big titties but the point I try to communicate is that every ideology causes destruction because destruction is inevitable, not because ideologies exist, and the real question is what kind of destruction and, if you care about that kind of thing, why it happened. So, if women having children is destroying them, I want them destroyed. CRASH.
     
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    I used to be offended that they always say the Age of Enlightenment ended in the 1780's. I always thought to myself, "Hey, we are waaaaay more enlightened than people were in the 1780's." Well at least I did until I read your post. Now I am more, "Hummmmm, I believe they may have been right with that 1780's thing after all."
     
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    The only discriminatory factors limiting any individual today on institutional levels are their male gender and white skin. I paid full boat tuition for my law degree; many of my black and female friends from wealthier backgrounds did not. Peddle false feminist claims elsewhere, not buying.
     

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