What is average teacher pay?

All I hear is how they don't make any money. I hear one week they make $17,000 then the next they make $65,000. Which is it? They don't seem poor to me. If they get paid well why all the complaining?

 

"What is average teacher pay? "

not enough for the job they do.....

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/All_K-12_Teachers/Salary#by_State

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I like this one, not really sure why the many on the right don't like teachers

"JON STEWART: Teachers Don't Work As Hard As Wall Street...At Ruining The World Economy"

http://www.businessinsider.com/jon-stewart-teachers-wall-street-taxpayers-bailout-video-2011-3


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The reason you get different answers is because each school system sets their salary schedule- so there is wide variety even within the same state. Experience and level of education matters in many of those salary schedules. Beginning teachers with no experience usually don't make the same salary as those with more years in the profession, or those with Master's degrees or higher. Lump all of them together and it's about $44,780 a year. For more details, here's a link.

 

the majority of people who respond to you, will cite website that have nothing to do with the actual school budgets... they all rely on people who donate information to that website, not that those websites go out and conduct routine actual comparisons and combine them... they will be highly flawed and drastically off... I constantly get into debates over teacher pay in cities across america, and I constantly shatter the numbers people cite, using the actual school budget being discussed, showing quite often the union contracts laying out the specific pay scales which vary not just on years, but level of degree...

for instance, I was recently discussing detroit public schools failing system, and someone kept trying to cite national websites showing average teacher pay... and I was able to prove the starting teacher pay for a current detroit city public school teacher was I believe $46,000 and scaled up to $82,000 after 10 years and a masters degree... meanwhile when we averaged out detroit city public school teacher salaries on record, we found they made roughly $115,000 in pay and benefits combined...

you can see $115,000 for the "average" detrout city public school teacher is WELL beyond the "national average" website claims that rely on input from others... quite an amazing contrast wouldn't you say? thats why you won't get a single detailed and solid response to this... you need to go to the specific school in question, dissect their budget, and then take a look at their union pay scales which often make it a much quicker generalization, but we can get the exact averaged number with the budget...

so how much do they make? well more than enough... anyone who wants to pick a specific school district and argue me they don't make enough, lets review the budget...

P.S. that detroit city public school teacher salary I cited, that doesn't include the teachers who work summer school too, they make an extra 30k on top of that salary... the others just get 3 months of vacation time instead... what a deal hey when summer school pays more than the median income of the families they teach...

 

My wife works for a private school and she puts in ungodly hours with all the grading and meetings with parents. On top of that, each teacher is required to teach an after school activity also so she does track. She makes below the national average. I am not sure if other schools require as much out of their teachers but she definitely earns her pay.

 

Exactly. The national average is between 40K and 50K. And there's constant downward pressure on teacher's salaries.

 

Salaries vary from state to state, district to district, region of country and other factors such as number of years of service, whether they have their 5 th year cdertificate and bla bla bla bla ...

Teachers do very very well for the most part these days .. when I returned to college after active duty military service I considered going into teaching but salaries were too low back then. I may have been foolish because most all who went into teaching back then are retired or nearly retired and they did well have great retirement benefits and most teacher who I know have a summer house on The Cape, in MAINE, or down in Myrtle Beach. Teachers in Connecticut were paid very very very well indeed and those who claim poor mouth are probably liars or named "Ted" .

 

An average of this is pretty much meaningless.

 

Very shady to include benefits to make your argument sound better. You're reaching and this shows it. All jobs with a decent benefits package can make a salary look this way.

Teaching sucks, that's why they complain. The salary is just the default mechanism to complain about, but it's a combination of how crappy the job is vs what they're paid.

You want the only thing you need to look at that will tell you the story? Google 'teacher burnout rate'. That's all you need to know.

If anything you said were true, if they were getting paid plenty and had these cushy jobs which you seem to be implying, then they wouldn't be quitting that cushy job with 3 months off every summer (which is a lie, it's 2 months not 3 and I've never heard of summer school paying anywhere near what you claimed).

You act like you want to look at the entire picture but it seems in actuality that you just want to vilify them.

Their job sucks. Their pay, IMO, is just fine for what their job should be, not what it is. Dealing with all the non-teaching BS they put up with isn't worth it for most and thus you have so many leave the profession entirely each year.

 

So they are pretty much on par with everyone else who's wages are falling. Thanks obama.

 

Wages compared to inflation are falling in many developed countries. Blaming Obama for that also?

 

They are WAY over paid for their job.

 

Teachers, like many others, get painted with that broad brush of being 'liberal, progressive, etc'. It really depends on where you live, I think.
I work for a smaller district and the majority of our teachers, administrators, the whole staff actually, are republican. And Christian for the most part.
I disagree with my fellow conservatives who paint all public schools in a bad light. I also know many people who work in surrounding districts. We are not at all like some make us out to be.

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Not necessarily. It depends on the district. What do you think they should be paid?

 

Oh no, so obama's failures are not limited by borders....

 

Teachers should be only at the highest levels of achievement. The top 20% of achieving students get a live teacher, the rest get a DVD with the lessons for the day on them. Learn or don't.

 

typical is 53k, with a pretty narrow band.

 

Google it.

I did and here is what I get:
http://www.payscale.com/research/US/All_K-12_Teachers/Salary

Roughly $45,000 a year. It all depends on where you live.

Average starting teacher's pay varies from around $30,000 a year to about $44,000 a year.
http://www.nea.org/home/2012-2013-average-starting-teacher-salary.html

The stats I trust the most are NCES, and they have it in the following link (in 2012-2013 dollars)
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d13/tables/dt13_211.60.asp

They list it as $56k a year average, but that varies from $39,000 a year in South Dakota to $75,000 a year in New York.

 

False:
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d13/tables/dt13_211.60.asp

Until 2009, there was pretty much a constant upward pressure on teacher's salaries (national average).

In constant 2012-2013 dollars, it went from $52k a year in 1970 to $57k a year in 1999 to $56k a year in 2013.

In actual dollars, it went from $8k a year in 1970 to $42k in 1999 to $56k a year in 2013. So in actual dollars, it has always gone up. In inflation adjusted dollars, it's just down a bit, but some of that could be an artifact from the high number of older teachers retiring, as the Baby Boom exits the classroom. (younger teachers make lower salaries than teachers who have taught for years and years).

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I pretty much agree about the pay, but the real problem is that the job conditions suck. I say this as somebody who taught for 8 years from 1992 to 2000. In addition, it's not so much the salary that is bad nowadays, as much as the benefits. Teachers used to get primo benefits--great health insurance, cheap, and great retirement. That has all gone away. The pay is better, but the overall compensation, IMHO, is down.

 

Then why didn't you choose it for a career? If it's so easy for the compensation?

I taught for 8 years. I was not overpaid, for sure. It was the hardest job I've ever had. Teachers today aren't overpaid either. That said, they aren't underpaid either.

 

Says the "Professor"......kind of funny.

 

Add medical, dental & vision benefits.

2 weeks off at Christmas and 2 weeks off at Spring.
Snow days, a myriad of one day holidays...and the biggie: Summers off.

Granted, they have to teach children and young adults which is not easy to do. I'm not saying they are over-paid, but it's not all that bad either.

 

The right has nothing against teachers, it's the teacher's Union that is the problem. Thugs essentially that extort property owners to pay for their retirements and full medical benefits by raising property taxes. Meanwhile in the private sector, employees are on their own funding retirements.

Public sector unions are the problem.

 

so is congress, we could make them all use 401k's rather then pensions, congress needs to lead there

 

why do you think the Right is supporting Trump?

No links to Congress.