What Is Our Mental Existence-86% Unconscious-Implications, Human Extinction

Every single thing we do with our minds is within the fact that our conscious existence is 66% of our lives, and logically, verifiably, controlled by that which interrupts it. Unconsciousness, sleep.

In that 66% our unconscious is still operating all of our autonomics, and about 90% of our actions because the unconscious does all the complex muscle coordinations. The conscious mental state is interrupted every 16 hours by 8 hours of basically unconscious existence. The unconscious, despite the waking conscious state, is unbroken from birth to death.

These are absolutes of our human existence. However, because they are hidden by their nature, and viewed as fringe or "new agey", they are not discussed seriously, or very basically, possibly feared. That fear is certainly social, and occasionally individually expressed, but really only because science also refuses to discuss it. They do that because there is so little focused research into the unconscious mind to refer to.

Logically, science and medicine should have a working understanding of this aspect of the mind while going about the business of being the social authorities or minister of appraisals of reality, using the mind. The fact is, science, medicine and psychology will not functionally discuss the matter.

Obviously, there is the distinct possibility that scientists are also completely controlled by their unconscious just like the rest of us.

What I'm getting at here is a possible explanation for the extreme mess our species is creating on this planet. I mean we are actually destroying vital elements. We are doing this to a degree where it is causing mass extinctions and mutating us as well as many other species that survive. Mutations are essentially the end of evolution.

http://creation.com/mutations-are-evolutions-end

At this point a review of what is known of our social unconscious behavior.

http://www.apadivisions.org/division-39/publications/reviews/social.aspx

http://gaq.sagepub.com/content/40/3/307.abstract

http://www.onelife.com/evolve/degen.html
"Evolution degenerates characteristics not screened by the environment. If instincts are controlled by intellect, they no longer need to breed true, since the intellect will dictate proper behavior. The originally strong social instincts will, in time, become degenerate and perverted. As these instincts degenerate, it becomes more and more necessary to enforce community rules for proper behavior. The evolutionary spiral continues to develop more and more perverted instinctive behaviors as stronger and stronger offsetting enforcement measures are required to obtain an orderly community. These stronger behavioral enforcement measures will continue to grow, while the individuals in the community develop less and less tolerance, until a point is reached when the individuals in the community rebel. At that point the intellectual restraints are no longer effective, the now perverted and degenerate social instincts are allowed full sway, and the society teeters on the brink of collapse. If it should collapse, the human, now with distorted social instincts, would be unable to survive."

Can anyone follow this? Do any care? Or, is the day to day reoccurring trauma of survival too much, overwhelming any capacity to appreciate this perspective?

Would it change anything for some, if there was a plan, a way to organize human beings to compel science to develop an understanding?
That plan would actually use law, specifically the Constitution for the united states of America. The plan is exquisitely constitutional in nature, and of course includes functional political activism breaking the fear spell that has people acquiescing to something they really, I mean REALLY do not want.

 

utter nonsense based on a false starting premise.

Social "instincts" will be perverted? what social instincts would they be? what mechanism perverts these instincts? Over what time span does this evolutionary erosion and perversion of social instincts take place?

Last I looked we were sentients able to overcome our instincts with our intellects from about DAY 1 of homo sapiens emergence (albeit somewhat inconsistently) . And from that day some 250 or 300K years ago we have built this civilization (warts and all). Given the technological revolution of the past couple of centuries we are accelerating the rate of social change, not as a function of social instinct, but as a function of intellect and the continuing application of the increasing sum of human knowledge.




this idea that our civilization is founded on "social instincts" is ludicrous.

 

Social instincts develop from the individual instincts of members of groups. Over time, the groups cognitively observe optimum instinctual response, communicate and agree upon then, then condition new generations to use those instinctual responses.

Not rocket science. Any behavioral anthropologist can confirm this process.

Those instincts would be the ones properly conditioned from the optimum instinctual responses.

The mechanism that perverts them are groups that inject contrived social responses into the society over time using mass media to complete the task.

Perhaps 4 or 5 generations is all that is needed.

Wrong, humanity has fought a constant battle between cognitive performance and unconscious impulse. It continues at this moment, and a larger percentage of people are losing the battle today than 100 years ago. If this wasn't true war and pollution would not be a problem, and that is the most visible. On an individual level it becomes tragic with alcoholism and drug addiction, particularly when mental health does not address the unconscious directly.

Yes, and the inference here is that the unconscious mind can be used to create warts, as well as remove them.

Which seems to not have added at all to our ability to control ourselves and always place NEEDS over wants, a very cognitive and intelligent notion leading to survival, continuity AND evolution.

BTW, Jonsa, I do appreciate your posting and tackling this issue. Not an easy one, and your post has tenacious facts, but I've been at this for a long time and the facts I can bring will be the foundation under yours over and over.

 

Compare sleep to being under an anesthetic. Sleep is not unconsciousness, you notice the passage of time and experience your surroundings.

 

Maybe human beings are programmed to use/destroy the Earth in order to get off of it....

 

Maybe some people do. I do not to any significant degree.

I've researched patients recall of surgeons conversations while under anesthesia and there is quite a bit more recorded than with sleep.

 

My experience with anesthetics was pretty strange. I fell asleep, then instantly woke up. That's a very strange sensation - having absolutely no consciousness for several hours.

Anyway, everyone's experience is different. My point was, sleep isn't entirely unconscious, at least for me!

 

Yep same here.....close eyes, open eyes...It was already over.

 

I imagine that'd be what death would be like - our experience of those few hours under anesthetic.

We get so attached to our experience that we forget that death is just complete lack of any thought whatsoever - that's the worst life can throw at us. On the other hand, we get 80+ years of consciousness for free.

 

Awareness during anesthesia is fairly rare, but occurs.

http://dare.uva.nl/document/53837?origin=publicationDetail#page=43
http://www.uptodate.com/contents/awareness-with-recall-following-general-anesthesia
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2175003/

Very deep sleep for me has no awareness, the other state I do not really think of as sleep.

Most importantly, there are very light forms of anesthesia that can be used for psychotherapy which should be, and are not.

 

This is a scenario I have pondered over and over. My conclusion is this. Proper, judicious use of the Earth will allow us the time to develop star travel before our vital elements fail in whatever collapse befalls the planet.

Abuse or destruction of vital elements beyond a certain level has us mutating, de-evolving in critical ways which preclude the mental, intellectual ability to develop star travel. Whereupon we sit here in static mutations destroying vital elements until our physical existence adapts to that and the human intellect gives up on leaving.

I made a video that touches on this in a dramatic creation of still images. This video was triggered by the BP gulf oil leak, but the images were created in 2004.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aek2xO4kFXQ

Notably, about a week after uploading, and I produced the video knowing I could use the "video response" feature of youtube to promote the video, youtube blocked my use of the "response video" function. I then began posting the url in text comments. Youtube then blocked my text comments.

A form of proof of this techno censorship can be found on my site.

http://algoxy.com/oxygen/youtube.error.try.again.html

Maybe now the issue of free speech abridged that I just posted about here;

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=222598&page=12&p=1064179741#post1064179741

gains substance.

 

There was a book written in 1962 titled, "The Hundredth Monkey". I'm wondering if any have heard of it?

Some may have heard kl of the book of the same title written in 1974 by Ken Keyes. It, was a cover for the original which is the victim of a modern book burning.

 

If you want to seriously examine your own subconscious try taking LSD. Might change your world.

 

From what I read, the experience is far too uncontrolled and prolonged. People appear traumatized by memories from deep memory, then hours later they are dissociated to return to more normal thought patterns.

Utilizing N2o and oxygen has a temporary thusly far more controlled effect and it dissolves the barrier between the conscious and unconscious quite well.

Here is a letter showing defacto approval from a past director of the Santa Barbara County Mental Health DEPT.



As far as I can tell government does not want effective mental health care because it interferes with the prison/police state.

 

Don't believe everything you read.

 

Actually, I remember years ago having to deal with people tripping, and I saw them afterwards. So I've read up on it. Although it has been used for therapy recently, I have my doubts. Too prolonged. The individual has little opportunity to reflect on elements of the unconscious before they are mowed over by some more.

Basically it releases DMT from the pineal. There are lots of ways to do that which are far more controlled and specific, meaning a person can focus on information from the unconscious.

Looking at this factor more generally, if a person gets too much info from the unconscious, they become catatonic. So some is good, more is definitely not better. Specific investigation that can immediately be cognitively evaluated and related to consciously recalled information can become downright useful.

 

My personal knowledge will probably not bow to your book learning.

 

MUCH SCIENCE HAS BEEN DONE ON THIS SUBJECT RECENTLY:




Over the past two decades of neurological research, it has become increasingly clear that the way we experience the world--our perception, behavior, memory, and social judgment--is largely driven by the mind's subliminal processes and not by the conscious ones, as we have long believed. As in the bestselling The Drunkard’s Walk: How Randomness Rules Our Lives, Leonard Mlodinow employs his signature concise, accessible explanations of the most obscure scientific subjects to unravel the complexities of the subliminal mind. In the process he shows the many ways it influences how we misperceive our relationships with family, friends, and business associates; how we misunderstand the reasons for our investment decisions; and how we misremember important events--along the way, changing our view of ourselves and the world around us.

 

Well, I have been talking for some time about the social instinct for sexual promiscuity.
It develops matriarchies out of fierce strong patriarchies.

The end game is fatherless kids raise in Child abuse by single mothers, most on Welfare if it is available.
The kids grow into adults who are responsible for 70% of all violent crime, too.

 

But, genetically, our unconscious mind comes back when our genes are fertilized again and we are born again into the living world.

That Unconscious mind knows all about being human, and is a "director" for what we will do initially.



Today, we see that the recent science work with MRI scans has brought facts to the doorstep concerning the Unconscious mind.

This genetically reformed entity is a composite and ancient source of memory and experiences which have been gleaned from the actual experiences of other people who lived before us.
It contains facts from experience, including Instincts and prior knowledge of events and their outcomes.
It is the body of Truth inside us.

This Unconscious mind, inside us, adds to the forming of the Collective Unconscious mind that is the Good Shepherd, one leading and interacting with some among us.
This body of Truth is our Lord, the Christ himself.

 

Yes, hypnosis is what Jesus used in 32AD.

The water-to-wine mass hypnosis event was recorded so we could understand this was the magic involved.
Today, we still have no tangible evidence for what hypnosis does.

It is still a great mystery.
But the christians are offended when this idea reaches them, because they prefer "magic" to factual knowledge.

 

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Agreed, a good example of social instincts being altered. Perhaps indirectly by media implication.

Attached are 3 pages of diagrams that show how the unconscious interface with daily consciousness operates, from one year, through one day, down to portions of one second.

At all points, there is ample potential for collective unconscious to have considerable influence.

 

I wouldn't give humans that much credit...it would be great if we were programmed to correctly park our cars...

 

No credit to give, it could be instinctual and natural. Kinda like the way pollen flies away from a dying flower. If we were actually conscious of this we might not use the Earth to its maximum.

 

To this day, I wash my sweet potatoes. I can hardly wait for that 100th monkey to start using butter on his.