What is really wrong with millennials?

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  1. jdog

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    You can never truly expect to achive any degree of prosperity working for someone else. Everyone I have known who worked their way up from the bottom always had something going on the side even if they worked 8-5 for someone else. A job will only ever pay you enough to survive, not get ahead.
     
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    Sure, you could always tell when a company was about to go under because they would have a meeting and tell you not to worry, everything was fine.
     
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    I think that every generation has thought that the generation(s) after them were lazy and aimless. Just like their parents' generation thought THEY were lazy and aimless.

    "Lack of discipline" is simply "being under 30". Some of it is that young people often aren't sure what they want, and it's hard to be disciplined without a goal. As well, IMO most people don't fully grow up until their late 20s or early 30s. Some not even then.

    Like every generation before them, the millenials will turn out fine. And the generation coming after them is going to kick everyone's ass. My teen/college kids and their friends are terrifyingly smart, informed, connected and driven for their age.
     
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    I won't go into great depth, but quite simply 5 years of college should never = placement as a nanny.

    I do agree that us older folk tend to have prioritized family/stability over "fulfillment" but I don't find that a bad thing, I find it practical and productive and a positive thing for a nations economy. But again in that example I blamed the parents more than anything for allowing her the financial flexibility to follow the path of least resistance. Had he held back on paying as you go with college and let some loans accumulate she likely would have chosen a different path out of college, instead she's just kind of continuing a pattern that isn't very productive financially, although it may be personally. Not my kid so its not my problem, just part of the problem overall, if parents make things too easy, kids tend to expect things to always be that way.
     
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    agree, excessive foreign outsourcing and excessive foreign imports are hurting society and people are just blaming "others", rather than addressing the real issue

    if we do not address this, the debt will continue to raise, the jobs will pay less and the rich will get richer.... society will collapse
     
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    That part of the Beaver Cleaver world was actually real. we used to be a primarily solitary trade nation...then globalization came about and that bottle cannot be recorked. If we really desire to "Win" at this we need to embrace intelligently the new reality instead of fighting it.
     
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  7. Sallyally

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    Agree.

    Yes, I had pay cheques that bounced. Terrifying if you are on a tight budget.
     
  8. Polydectes

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    Yeah that seems to still be true
     
  9. Polydectes

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    I'm 37 and I'm a millennial

    That's good to hear.
     
  10. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    If you don't mind me asking what age group do you fall in?
     
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    So you're one of the oldest millennials. The youngest are barely in their 20s.

    Yep!
     
  12. Polydectes

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    Yes I was born in 1982 I think that's the first year.
     
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    Per wiki, the Millenials are those born between 1981 and 1996. That means age 23 to 38 in 2019. Those younger than 23 or so are post-Millenials (Gen Z for now).
     
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    As far as I know, I'm a millenial, in my late 20's, soon 30.

    I don't know if it's my glass lungs that made me like this, but everything seems so absurd and useless to me.
    Growing up was just gowing from delusionnal to delusionnal. Family seems for my generation just an illusion, you can't trust anyone. I learned the hard way that a father isn't a "true" parent, it's the optionnal one. The more I learned, the more I learned that the democracy I believed in was corrupted to the core, and I abandonned my political hopes. I thought that rationnality and good intentions could win. I'm among people which need usefullness in my life, sense of purpose, and I can't find any. I meet a lot of people of my generation with that same problem, but I don't know if it's just because I attract my alike or it's just a generation trend. I have the feeling that all what's happening now, since two decades, can only end badly.
    I don't feel part of all the troll culture, but I fully understand the whole "clown world" thing.

    I don't think that this generation is specifically problematic, I just think that we're facing the limits of our intellect. We're tribal animals. Our natural environnement is a tribe of a hundred individuals, not cities of hundred of thousand of people or countries with millions of people.
     
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    Old! 65
     
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    How often did your paycheck bounce?
     
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    A few times at two different establishments.

    Ps. Moved on shortly after these episodes and found new employment.
     
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    Did you misspell discipline to be ironic? ;)
     
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  19. Polydectes

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    I wish that would have been funny. Lol
     
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    Yeah I had paychecks bounce then I moved to different company and had paychecks bounce then I moved to different company and again had paychecks bounce. The fourth time I moved to a different company and eventually had paychecks bounce I left that industry.
     
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    It’s very annoying when that happens. Miserable employers with no respect for their workers.
     
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    My case it was broke employers.
     
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    Same same.
    Should they still be trading if they can’t pay their employees?
    If you have a direct debit set up for mortgage payments or such, you’ll incur a dishonour fee if your wages haven’t arrived.
     
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    One thing that strikes me is how much more crowded this world has become. I can remember one of my teachers telling us the population of earth had just exceeded 3.7 billion.

    As a young man, I felt a sense of freedom to go and do what I liked to do without putting up with crowds of people. Some of the most memorable examples were when my friends and I would take off in a car with only a paper bag full of clothes and map of the US. We didn't know where we would end up. We just pointed to some place on the map went.

    One night, while we were crossing SD, we were tired and wanted to stop for the night, but there was only the road we were on and some gravel roads leading off into nothingness. No houses, no gas stations--nothing but an occasional mailbox and a lot of mule deer. When we finally saw a sign for a campground, we turned off the road and drove for about twenty minutes until we found the place. It was a plywood shack with a couple of uninhabited campers parked nearby.

    We rolled out our sleeping bags and laid looking up at a sky full of stars. There was no light pollution to drown any of them out. There were no trees around to block our view. There was no noise except for some bugs. Right there in the middle of god knows where, with nothing but the starry sky to occupy our thoughts, everything seemed right. Everything seemed balanced and purposeful. That's when the aliens came--just kidding. But it was a moment that I'd call spiritual. I don't know if you can still find that kind of space in such a crowded world.
     
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  25. kazenatsu

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    I entirely agree with your sentiments but South Dakota has, then as well as now, always been a relatively sparsely populated place.
    So that wasn't really the best example, I don't think.

    There's been huge changes in certain other parts of the country, and open fields have given way to overcrowded developments on every square inch of land, and lots of traffic congestion on roads.

    All sorts of horror stories coming out of California, from people who are old enough to remember how it used to be like.
     
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