What is the argument in favour of euthanasia for people who are not about to die?

do you support the option or not?

 

just as natural as removing life support

 

There's nothing natural about GIVING the life support in the first place. It PREVENTS nature from taking its course. It really is not complicated.

 

No, I don't support someone in taking their own life. Do you?

 

Yes, in that they both lead to death. This has no bearing on whether they are both natural, or both man-made, or whether one is natural and one is man-made.

 

Because if we did not put them on the ventilator in the first place they would not get reliant and therefor may have lived longer

 

Sorry but again you are oversimplifying. Let’s start with what YOU think is in these “injections” you talk about

 

Alright, well I've always thought of life support as supporting life. That is to say that without it, the person would die. Are there actually alternative definitions?

 

Whether or not it is a "killing" does not depend on lack of participation of the person whose life is to end. Even with their participation, it is a killing by definition. Unless you have an alternative definition of "killing."

 

Something which was man-made.

 

Sure, and if you did not put them on the ventilator in the first place, a natural death would have occurred?

 

Not necessarily. Depends. It comes down to “how long is a piece of string?

 

It is usually opioids. Especially in euthanasia situations

 

No it is not because we are following the wishes of the person involved

 

I assume that you mean that in some cases, people are put on life support out of an abundance of caution, because of a high probability that they will otherwise die.

 

Yes, but the wishes of the person, or lack thereof, are not related to the definition of "kill."

 

Okay, so man-made, right?

 

In that any medication is “man made”. Morphia is a drug of choice they are just using slightly higher doses

 

Yeah, so my point is that I distinguish it from life support being switched off.

 

nope, removing it ends their life, so same outcome as the shot

 

Why did you leave out the rest of the definition? Pain is subjective. Mental pain can be just as "painful" as physical pain. They often go hand in hand. I would say that mental pain is worse; at least with physical pain others will understand and you have a reason for being depressed

Most people who commit suicide are not in physical pain.

And not all depression can be "cured"

 

yes, but once you do it, and it's working, you know removing it ends life

flying is not natural for humans, removing the pilot and letting the plane fall is not natural

 

Feel free to include anything you think I left out.

Yes, well it cannot be subjective when being defined into law, say with assisted dying law.

Incurable depression? Really? Can you support that claim?

 

yep, 100%, it's not my choice to make for people

 

Yes same outcome, but what is actually doing the killing say with a patient on ventilation when the ventilator is removed?