What is the basis for Anti-Semitism?

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  1. DennisTate

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    The Roman Catholic Encyclopaedia of the eighth century has a prophecy.........
    about the "Anti-Christ" that is intriguing...... It basicaly states that the whole world will eventually go Jewish.....
    will Judaize by Roman Catholic standards.. .will begin to observe the Jewish Sabbaths and Holy Days......

    the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple will be built... .Ezekiel forty seven will be fulfilled which will
    transform the ecology of Israel and much of the Middle East........

    Gentiles will soon abandon the worship of Mary... the mother of Jesus.......

    so you can just imagine how this prediction in their own Roman Catholic traditions would tend to fuel anti-Semitism.........

    The article by former Catholic Reformer Martin Luthur..... The Jews and their Lies.. gives you a good idea of how competitive Roman Catholicism had became toward Judaism...... (especially against Christians who observed any aspect of Jewish practice such as the Jewish Sabbath)!
     
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    Very interesting response, & informative post. Thank you for taking the time & effort to share that with me & this forum. :)
     
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    Dr. Hermann Wittgens theories were exceptionally well thought out. Thank you for your encouragement.
     
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    Some think it started in the Garden of Eden. When the Serpent (Satan) was cursed with the promise that the offspring of Adam and Eve (The Messiah) would crush his head (in the 2nd coming) but that the snake would bruise his heel (the Crucifixion). That it is, it is satanically inspired and the most ancient of hatreds.
     
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    Arabs are Semites and nobody is more hated on this forum than they are. Shame that haters can lower themselves to hate as much as they do. Funny thing is that so many of these haters are professing Christians who are required to LOVE everyone. I wonder what they will tell their maker on Judgment day.
     
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    Who believes that stuff?
     
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    Certainly elements of Christianity view the basis for Antisemitism to be:

    The reality of evil: The test of following God rather than evil was flunked by the newly created man and woman in the Garden of Eden

    The fall of humankind: Early in Genesis man rebels against God and with this rebellion evil finds entry into the hearts of all men and women. Murder, lying, cheating and conflict became the norm in terms of the human experience and so it remains today. Evil is everywhere and clutches at every heart. God warned Cain about this and exhorted him to deal with it. Paul the Apostle referred to its reality by stating that “all have sinned and fall short of the glory (character) of God.

    The demonic realm: The devil was himself in the Garden, inducing Adam and Eve to rebel against God and embrace evil. The decision was wholly theirs; the devil merely provided the opportunity for choice. In the end, Adam chose evil over good and, as a consequence, made himself a willing ally of Satan meaning "the adversary."

    The redemptive initiative: A bit later in Genesis God moved towards this fallen world initiating His plan of redemption by approaching a Sumerian called Abram, who later crossed over into Canaan and became the first Hebrew, today's Jews. This is the beginning of world redemption and Israel is at the heart of it. Redemption when completed will fully restore humanity to God separating humans from all that is wicked and evil. Israel is the vehicle of world redemption, the delivery mechanism. She is the means by which God will make Himself known to an evil world and reach out to it. Jesus clearly taught, Salvation is of the Jews, and Paul maintained that Israel’s uniqueness lies in two things: One, she is the custodian of the oracles of God, and two, the 'house' out of which the great redemptive acts of God for the sake of the world have arisen.

    This reality, that no other nation lives in, has made the Jewish people the target of all that is evil and wicked kill the Jew and you will kill God and His purpose in the world. This is the dark sinister plan that lurks in the heart of men and that drives the powers of darkness. It has manifested throughout history, finding its most diabolical expression in the Holocaust.

    John saw this phenomenon on the isle of Patmos when he received The Revelation. In chapter twelve of this “unveiling,” he sees a woman clothed with the sun, moon and 12 stars. She is pregnant but challenged. That is, opposing her is a red dragon who seeks by all means possible to destroy her. The dragon is identified as the devil!

    The imagery here is taken from Genesis 37, where Joseph had a dream in which his father, mother and eleven brothers are presented as the sun, moon and twelve stars (including himself). So, the message is clear; the woman is Israel. She is pregnant because she births God’s redeeming purpose into the world. In fulfilling this role, she has to endure the wrath of all that is evil. This is the root of anti-Semitism.

    All the good that the Jewish People have brought into the world and violent and hate filled has been our response. This is such a short list of all the good things the Jewish People have done for us:

    • Albert Einstein - Physicist
    • Jonas Salk - Created first Polio Vaccine
    • Albert Sabin - Developed the oral vaccine for Polio
    • Galileo - Discovered the speed of light
    • Selman Waksman - Discovered Streptomycin. Coined the word 'antibiotic'.
    • Gabriel Lipmann - Discovered color photography
    • Baruch Blumberg - Discovered origin and spread of infectious diseases
    • G. Edelman - Discovered the chemical structure of antibodies
    • Briton Epstein - Identified first cancer virus
    • Maria Meyer - Structure of atomic nuclei
    • Julius Mayer - Discovered law of thermodynamics
    • Sigmund Freud - Father of psychotherapy
    • Christopher Columbus (Marano) - Discovered the Americas
    • Benjamin Disraeli - Prime Minister of Great Britain 1804-1881
    • Isaac Singer - Invented the sewing machine
    • Levi Strauss - Largest manufacturer of denim jeans
    • Joseph Pulitzer - Established 'Pulitzer Prize' for achievements in journalism, literature, music, and art
    Here is the experience as summarized in 3,000 year old biblical poetry:

    Behold,
    he shall be high and lifted up,
    and shall be exalted.
    As many were astonished at you—
    his appearance was so marred, beyond human semblance,
    and his form beyond that of the children of mankind—
    so shall he sprinkle many nations.
    Kings shall shut their mouths because of him,
    for that which has not been told them they see,
    and that which they have not heard they understand.
    Who has believed what he has heard from us?
    And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
    For he grew up before him like a young plant,and like a root out of dry ground;
    he had no form or majesty that we should look at him,
    and no beauty that we should desire him.
    He was despised and rejected by men,
    a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;
    and as one from whom men hide their faces
    he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
    Surely he has borne our griefs
    and carried our sorrows;
    yet we esteemed him stricken,
    smitten by God, and afflicted.
    But he was pierced for our transgressions;
    he was crushed for our iniquities;
    upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace,
    and with his wounds we are healed.
    All we like sheep have gone astray;
    we have turned—every one—to his own way;
    and the Lord has laid on him
    the iniquity of us all.
    He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth;
    like a lamb that is led to the slaughter,
    and like a sheep that before its shearers is silent,
    so he opened not his mouth.
    By oppression and judgment he was taken away;
    and as for his generation, who considered
    that he was cut off out of the land of the living,
    stricken for the transgression of my people?
    And they made his grave with the wicked
    and with a rich man in his death,
    although he had done no violence,
    and there was no deceit in his mouth.
    Yet it was the will of the Lord to crush him;
    he has put him to grief; an offering for guilt,
    he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days;
    the will of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
    Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied;
    by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant,
    make many to be accounted righteous,
    and he shall bear their iniquities.
    Therefore I will divide him a portion with the many,
    because he poured out his soul to death
    and was numbered with the transgressors;
    yet he bore the sin of many,
    and makes intercession for the transgressors.
     
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    Perhaps you should be more concerned what you tell your Maker on that day.

    I'm amazed at how much of the new racism is the old anti-Semitism. Omar, Ocasio-Cortez, and Tlaib want Congress to endorse the anti-Israeli boycott, divestment, and sanctions (BDS) movement to isolate the Jewish democracy—as if Israel was an international outlaw far worse than China, North Korea, or Iran.

    Omar (“Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.”) has likened her effort to endorse BDS to the 1930s humane boycott of Nazi Germany. Earlier she claimed, with a clumsy “two Benjamins” metaphor, that naïve Americans were deluded by Jewish money and Benjamin Netanyahu into supporting Israel against their supposed own interests.

    https://amgreatness.com/2019/07/28/...sIRBNSxjio6DGZtVan5DIRZXKmY-SnJE_pXptDajzyfSw
     
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    If you are such a do goody Christian, you need to worry about yourself, not about me.

    As for AOC, as she has said before, her own ancestry is Jewish as the name Cortez is Judio. I bet your name is not so.

    And for Omar, it was the Jewish vote that got her into office and Jewish Mayor Frey remains her best friend.

    Like them I also oppose supporting and financing Israel. And like Cortez, my ancestry is Jewish. I join with my pals in Tikkun in calling for peace and justice in Israel. That isn't anti Semitism. Only those who are bigoted would project their own sentiments unto others.
     
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    Jacob (Abraham's grandson) who was re-named Israel was patriarch of the 12 Hebrew tribes. One of his sons was Judah who was father of Jews. When the Bible refers to Jews, it does so only to those who can trace their tribal ancestry directly to the Promised Land who are of direct bloodline to these persons - see Acts 3:25 where the apostle specifically restricts the blessing of the earth to that seed and their lineage. There is no indication that adopting Judaism as a religion constitutes being of Abraham's seed. However, adopting Christianity does fit that bill as I have discussed before.
     
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    Like all racism, it's evil. That's really all that need to be said about it.

    ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE: Associated Press is targeting pro-Israel Jews.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:



    AP Chariman Steve R Swartz is Jewish.
     
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    There's actually a bit of a civil war going on between left wing diaspora Jews and Zionists.
     
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    Yeah it's not like this forum is overrun with left wing anti-whiteism.
     
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    Yeah, no.

    I suspect the OP is referring to the Jewish diaspora. To demonstrate just how differently Jews have been treated in every nation they've entered, you only have to look at that other famously well travelled group, the Chinese. While they have been treated poorly and excluded from society etc, they were never expelled or expunged.

    There is far more to it than ordinary tribalism or religious intolerance. The Jews are unique in that they've aggravated every society they have taken up residence in, and expelled from many. The WHY is the unanswered question.
     
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    While the Chinese also value education, and tend to do very well financially, they are not interested in 'public service'. They stay well out of the politics and leadership of any nation they reside in, preferring to quietly beaver away in the background. IOW, they don't provoke envy because they're 'invisible'. They're not in Hollywood, the media, politics, education, or big corporate business.
     
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    haha :D
     
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    All of these are true also of the Chinese diaspora. Who were not expelled or expunged.
     
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    Jews have, historically, been percieved to be 'the 1%' that hordes resource as a means to control people. Its never been true (theres always been some Jewish in there, its never been all jews), but their tendency to prefer business with other Jews made the scapegoating by other competing/controlling interests very easy.

    Additionally, theres a legend regarding a wealthy, ruthless mercenary clan from the dark ages that feigned conversion to Judaism as a means to escape annihilation after all their neighboring nations allied against them. Ellegedly, this mercenary clan abandonned war and took up banking as a means to conquest instead, using their status as 'Jews' as additional leverage. The subject is difficult to research and is likely only legend. But it nonetheless plays a part in antisemitism.
     
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    I doubt it was ever about money, since other groups were also doing the same.

    I suspect it has FAR more to do with 'control'. They wanted control and influence outside of their enclaves. A very odd thing in a closed society - most of whom have no interest in the world outside their doors.
     
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    Funny thing is when righties are challenged to prove that claim they always run away.

    So I hereby make the challenge again: prove to me that whites hate whites as claimed by the far right.
     
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    Swartz has been accused by extremists of being too pro Israel in his reporting. I see nothing on the historical record to prove otherwise.
     
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    No already said it was tribalism. Should you want to claim otherwise go for it!
     

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