What is the language that you would like to learn?

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Well-Known Member

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    We spoke patois in South London/all over London actually when I grew up, everyone did, white kids, black kids, Indian kids, Chinese kids etc...
    I thought patois was my generation's Cockney until I found out it was Jamaican.

    Wagwan, safe blud.
    That's what my generation of working class Londoner sounds like.
     
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    I got nicked by the Old Bill.
    == The police arrested me.
    :)
     
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    No...

    I was knicked by this Bobby becoz 'e thought I robbed a pony, but 'e was taking the Mick.
    I was arrested by the police because I was suspected of stealing £5.00, he was was wasting my time / making a mockery of me.

    Pony = £5.00
    Monkey = £500.00

    There are other animals for other sums, but IDK Cockney like that, that's my father.

    The Bill was a stupid TV show imo filmed in Croydon about the Metropolitan Police in a fictional place.
     
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    As I see there are multiple cockney accents.
    That makes it more interesting, indeed.
    ;)
     
  5. The Rhetoric of Life

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    Not really, just the one.

    Fake Cockney is more common though, like 'mate' and 'Old Bill' and stuff; but that's not Cockney, it's just nothing.

    A lot of published fake cockney out there on the market though to make a quick profit like 'cockney dictionaries' packed full of misleading cockney any real cockney would and could challenge.
     
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  6. The Rhetoric of Life

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    A Policeman is a Bobby in Cockney, nothing else; there aren't any regional Cockney regional dialects in Cockney, it's either Cockney, or it's some fake cultural appropriation. That's why it's easy to spot a fake Cockney, by things they say. A lot of Fake Cockney out there though, a lot of it.

    If you're born to sounds of Bow Bells (if you're from Bow or not but else where in London like Hoxton, Battersea, Hackney) you're a Cockney, as far out as Balham (even Balham's a stretch for some Cockneys) to recognise as Sounds of Bow Bells.
     
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    If one sees Cockney as a code language of petty criminals then 'Old Bill' or Bobby for police, 'Lemon' for time, 'Dog' for telephone makes pretty sense. One can also not rule out that different branches of that accent have developed. Nobody can prevent that.

    These guys were members of the London football hooligan scene and claim themselves to be real Cockneys:

     
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    Yeah, there's a lot of b/s cockney, and Old Bill might be British words, but isn't Cockney.

    Turns out Bobby or Old Bill isn't Cockney for Police, but are British but not Cockney slang.

    Trust me, there are no regional variations of Cockney within the Sounds of Bow Bells, but there is a lot of Fake Cockney used to push merchandise such as Rhyming Slang Dictionaries.

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    The Sounds of Bow Bells is such a small region of London and there aren't regional differences of Cockney within the Bow Bells.
     
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    Next time somebody uses fake Cockney @pitbull , slap them upside the head, for me, as it's a pet peeve of mine (much like people who use kilometres instead of miles and Canada) (lol).

    It's a form of Mockney whenever someone tries to invent or call something Cockney that's not.
     
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    Also, it's not Dog for Phone, it's Dog and Bone for Phone.


    On the Dog and Bone.
    On the Phone.
     
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    I can speak some Spanish and American Sign Language. I would like to become fluent in both.

    I've always heard that it's easier to learn other languages once you've mastered one outside your native tongue. I don't know how true that is but wouldn't it be nice if we could all speak every language? I believe having conversations is the gateway to healing on all sides.
     
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    English is one of the hardest languages to learn because its illogical in composition and the ability to use it properly comes from experience and not from following any kind of coherent language rules.

    I'd like to learn anything outside of Indo European languages, maybe Chinese. Every language that I know is pretty similar, also to English because you construct the ideas/sentences the same way.

    Qu'est-ce que tu fais?
    Ce faci tu?
    Cosa fai tu?

    French, Romanian and Italian, all romance languages. I also know Castilian and a bit of Catalan. We can understand each other without knowing a bit about the other language if it's spoken not too fast.
    Kinda weird, Spain and Romania are worlds apart but are more understood than Swedes do understand Danish. SPQR! hehe

    Languages are an extension of the thought process and related to the environment, there are languages without a word for breakfast because do eat only once a day. They dont have the idea of eating early in the morning so no word for it.

    In my area, we have 5 words to describe the idea of a forest(all a bit different), I know that Sami people have alot of words to describe snow but they all mean something a bit different.
     
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    I want to learn Vietnamese.
     
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    I'd like people in the USA to learn English, especially after living here a decade or so. Too much to ask?
     
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    It would be great if people in the USA learned English yes. That would be great if they could say zed properly and spell colour and valour correctly. Heh.
     
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    fyi
    @scarlet witch
    @crank
    @Sallyally



    I would like to learn Australian.
    Being able to understand "Waltzing Matilda".
    Communicate better with Aussies on Board.

    I did 2 years of High School French and 2 years of
    college German. They never took.


    Moi :oldman:



    Quarantine :flagcanada:
     
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    Easy! Good on yer mate.
     
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    Just for the heck of it but not to really learn it, it would be neat to hear the ancient Arawakan languages of South America.


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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arawak_language


    As the Taíno culture declined during Spanish colonization, the language was replaced by Spanish and other European languages, like English and French. It is believed to have been extinct within 100 years of contact,[1] but possibly continued to be spoken in isolated pockets in the Caribbean until the late 19th century.[3] As the first indigenous language encountered by Europeans in the New World, it was a major source of new words borrowed into European languages.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taíno_language



    But the ultimate line:

    Who has the bling bling?


    Hey Jack Arawak... been talking to your mother....





     
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    Okay.. not to get off track.. but dominant or recessive gened, in your opinion?


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