What is the purpose and intent of the 9-11 ceremonies we are witnessing this week?

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  1. Daybreaker

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    Not technically. I mean, it could be, but it isn't inherently. Often, an unannounced military attack is just good strategy. If the attack is designed to cow a population into surrender or some sort of action, then it's a terrorist attack.

    I suppose you could make the case that all military action is terrorist to some degree, but I don't think most people use the term that way. It's more specific than that.

    It was just a wordy insult. That analysis is actually more informative of the people opposed to liberals -- it says a lot, that some people would accept such an explanation as likely.
     
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    Exactly what we did. It was a sucker maneuver. Provoke a superior force into chasing you into a canyon. Worked great for Sitting Bull. American forces are known to be vulnerable to this sort of tactic.
     
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    I was unaware being fiscally conservative, socially responsible renders me progressive.
     
  4. James Cessna

    James Cessna New Member

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    In all due respect, you need to read more and come up to speed on recent world history.

    If Saddam Hussein had cooperated with the UN weapons inspectors, we would not have had an excuse to invade Iraq. Saddam Hussein was a very foolish man. His stupidity cost him his power, his authority and his life.

     
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    Again what do you suppose the terrorists (al-Qaeda) intended to accomplish by their 9-11 attacks? In your opinion, how do you think they thought we would respond?
     
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    By going to afghanistan and taking it to them. But we really didn't do that right away. At least with the force we should have.
     
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    Not excellent. I was almost late to lunch. That's the real tragedy.
     
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    Because everything else was painful brainwashing crap about the 9-11-01 plane attacks. After watching a few of these shows, I still have yet to see one that addressed issues from the perspective of WHY. Three statements were made by Bin Laden as the motivation for the attacks:
    1. Sanctions imposed against Iraq
    2. Presence of USA military in Saudi Arabia
    3. Support of Israel by USA

    I'm not saying that the USA should simply cave to the concessions of a terrorist, but can't one media organization in the USA at least DISCUSS the possibility of critically thinking through the implications of hegemony, sanctions and blind Israeli support?
     
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    I thought that was well known...Obama had said he wanted to bring to the USA some of the destruction it had brought upon other countries...he did that but if americans still can't figure out why then he didn't accomplish his goal...
     
  10. James Cessna

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    I believe yuo are mistaken, "dudeman".

    I have seen several informative programs about why Al Qaeda attacked us on 9-11.

    First of all, they resent very much our support of Israel. Second, they resented at the time our support of Hosni Mubarak in Egypt and King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.

    Third and probably most important, they thought the American people and their leaders were weak. They actually believed if they hit us hard and delt us a fatal blow, we would withdraw our influence from the Middle East and turn tail and run. With us gone and the British gone many years earlier, Al Qaeda would work with the Muslim Brotherhood to establish Islamofascist states throughout the Middle East and restore Islam to its once former glory.

     
  11. dudeman

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    Name the shows.

    Everything that I have seen today was a minute by minute chronology of the events on September 11, 2011 with no critical thought about why it happened or how it could have been prevented. List the names of 3,000 people and constantly bless firefighters. Bin Laden's comments support your statements about the expectations of the USA response and I can't debate them, however, I suspect you independently learned of this information and did not learn of it today. Today was a day of brainwashing to support the concept of victimization.
     
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    Same reason they need to keep bringing up hitler every day in and day out to remind us how terrible it is when someone (hitler) tells bankers to (*)(*)(*)(*) off and a nation prints it's own money instead of borrowing at an interest, which when Germany did it immediately raised itself out of depression and created one of the best economies. I always wondered why after 9:11 the media was spinning this for a month like it's the end of the world, and especially all the flags around every home commercial: that was way out of sync with what I saw on the streets and I drove around different neighborhoods, that patriotism was faked in order to be used to invade countries for oil therefor you have the rich and the poor.

    You have to tell me, is it 9:11 that destroyed America economicaly? sorry, I don't buy this BS.
     
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    Americans are the new jews ! luckily you have got your own country - oh, wait:omfg:
     
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    I can say "Oy vey" without being accused of antisemitism.
     
  15. James Cessna

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    You have been watching the wrong coverage.

    If you want to learn something worthwhile for a change, you must not continuously watch CNN and Fareed Zakaria all the time!


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    How do you think Osama bin Laden was able to escape Tora Bora when we had him surrounded?

    http://foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Tora_Bora_Report.pdf
     
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    Spoken again like a truly loopy liberal!

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    That wasnt a terrorist attack.. that was an attack on our military, not on civilians.. You see, my mentally challenged poster, in order for an attack to be considered a "terrorist" attack it has to be targetting civilians in order to bring about desired results from a government the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets ..... Now Hiroshima and Nagasaki... those were terorrist attacks... nobody can kill civilians like we can baby

    If you want to know what (-11 was about in the eyes of our attackers.. all you have to do is listen to tapes Osama released after the attack. He basically spelled out what he wanted

    A. To make the United States play like the Soviets did and bankrupt themselves on the rocks of Afghanistan
    B. To get the U.S to kill thousands of muslims to achieve greater unity against the U.S in the Muslim world
    C. Kick out western coporations and military entities out of the middle east.

    Two out of three aint bad huh?
     
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    I would have like to have quoted the first 3 posts, but this year in remembering 9-11-01 something different happened in the old noggin'.
    A) Former President George Bush spoke publicly about his exact thoughts that day.
    B) I realized no matter how much any of us despise war it was undeniably declared on us 10 years ago. We didn't ask for it or go looking for it.
    C) I have no idea about politics or the full truth of what people responsible for the defense of the United States know. Neither do the '24 hour news' networks. They get the stuff I do know wrong every time they report so why listen?
    D) Since '01 I have been so angry. Unfortunately, I misdirected it at my own country, my own self, & my own religion picking all of it apart. This heinous attack was not the fault of the United States. The blame lies solely with power hungry terrorists. They're power hungry and psychopathic killing people who were no threat to them - that's why they did it.
    E) I am so grateful for our troops.
     
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