What Is Wrong With The Type Of People Who Feel Sorry For Rapists & Murderers?

I've noticed there's a mildly small percentage of the population that subscribe to extreme liberalism. To the point that they literally cannot help but feel sorry for everyone except racists... even rapists, pedophiles and murderers.

Do you think there's something deeply mentally wrong with these people? Or is it just brainwashing? Or heart ruling brain? Or something else?

I've been sitting here for the last 30 minutes or so trying to understand how these people feel sorry for someone who does evil things and now my brain hurts.

 

they are victims of their circumstances and are not entirely responsible for their actions

 

Is it the "liberals" who blame the victims of rape or are extreme social conservatives more likely to do that?

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-07/...victims-word-victim-burglary-victims?_s=PM:US



A Georgia state lawmaker with a history of operating on the political fringe has filed a bill stripping the term "victim" from rape, stalking and domestic violence cases.

Rep. Bobby Franklin, a Republican from the Atlanta suburb of Cobb County, filed the bill in November but it only recently came to public attention.

Franklin's bill would eliminate the word "victim" from statutes dealing with stalking, rape, obscene telephone contact with a child and family violence and replace it with "accuser."

 

I am going to post something that is bound to upset the apple cart.

In many cases, women who are raped have actually put themselves in the situation. I am not excusing rape, by no means am I. I am of the mind that all rapists should be killed. As to murderers, they too should be killed as well.

As to the type of mentality that causes excuses for murderers, it could stem from the fact of innocent people being put to death by government via the death penalty. If it is that which you are talking about, it is not a mental illness at all to recognize that an injustice has been committed by government, ie judiciary, prosecutorial, law enforcement, defense, etc.

I am not going to say that people do not often excuse murder when they do, take for instance war(s), political assininations, geo-politics. . . What I will say is that not many people in the general dynamics of life (day to day activities), excuse murder

 

No, no, no, it's definitely not that which I'm talking about. I'm talking about people who specifically feel sorry for rapists and murderers who are definitely rapists and murderers. Like the rapists or murderers are the victims themselves. Some people do have this kind of mentality and I just can't for the life of me understand it.

I'll reveal a little more. I recently discovered somebody in my personal life who has that mentality and it left me in disbelief.

 

Is feeling sorry for these people the objection to sending them to death row? Is it the fact some people actually try to understand why people do these things, instead of demanding everyone be put to death?

If so, then I guess there must be something wrong with me.

 

If you'll notice, there really is no end to liberalism. In all cases it is a mental disorder. But only the worst victims of liberalism do we see this kind of thought patterns.

 

Blame the films/tv programs etc..

The film "Silence of the Lambs" which gathered a huge following with the main character being a psycopthic cannibal.

The Tv series "Dexter" A serial killer who is emotionally void and the only time he feels 'human' is when he is killing then chopping to peices other people.

 

I used to own the DVD of "Silence of the Lambs" and I never felt sympathy for Hannibal "The Cannibal" Lecture, maybe because I am a person with the ability of discernment. As for "Dexter", I have never watched it being that I do not like television AT ALL. The key to television is that they are programs, when you program someone or something, you are influencing its behaviors. Maybe that is one of the reasons people behaves so oddly. I guess it is safe to say that television enhances their already disabling disabilities. Maybe it is one of the roots (television) of dysfunctionality?

 

No, that's not what I mean. I understand your mentality, although I'm not sure I subscribe to it myself. As far as I'm concerned if you're a murderer or a rapist then you're unfit for civilized society. There's no excuse for it, but that's another topic.

I heard someone yesterday say they specifically feel sorry for rapists/pedophiles. We were talking about a woman we know who was molested as a young girl by a young man who lived in the neighborhood and this person (who incidentally is related to the girl who was molested) said "poor guy." As if he was the victim.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's completely different to your kind of mentality which I'll admit is rational.

 

it's just hero worship. nothing to see here...move along.

 

Strange because I'm an extreme libertarian which includes extreme liberalism when it comes to the Rights of the Individual and I have no sympathy for rapists, pedophiles or murderers as they violate the inalienable Rights of the Individual.

I do feel sorry for racists. Racism reflects extreme ignorance and stupidity and I feel sorry for those that suffer from extreme ignorance and stupidity. Racism, per se, does not violate anyone's inalienable Rights unless it's acted upon where those Rights of others are violated.

Simply being a racist, as noted, just reflects ignorance and stupidity and I think we should all feel sorry for ignorant and stupid people.

If racists violate the inalienable Rights of others then just like the rapists, pedophiles and murderers they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law as they are no better than the rapists, pedophiles and murderers.

 

To further suggest this view. I remember an advertisement to 'Dexter' which is perhaps the greatest view to how media influences society.

It was a one sentance in a short advert:

"Dexter, the housewifes favourite serial killer"

 

This thread isn't about racism, Shiva.

Racism is NOT stupid and your personal opinion on it is meaningless as you're clearly biased. In my opinion, anti-racism is stupid and ignorant because the vast majority of anti-racists haven't experienced multi-cultural reality and prefer to point their fingers from their gated White communities.

If racists violate the inalienable rights of others in a physical way then they've committed the illegal act of violence and should be charged on that. Introducing phony laws like hate-crimes and racist attacks is what is truly stupid and ignorant as it leads to all sorts of problems that have been highlighted in the multiple news stories posted around of blacks racially attacking Whites and not facing hate-crime charges simply because Whites don't matter. It also demeans the victims of non-racist violent attacks who are every bit as scarred from the incident as a poor down-trodden black "man" who was beaten up by a White man and called the N word. Violence is violence is violence.

In short, get over it. Racism is a reaction to an action. No one is racist for no reason and if black behavior worldwide suddenly and miraculously improved then racism would dramatically decrease. Racism is also an ideology that YOU happen to disagree with. Millions worldwide do agree with it.

Lastly, you were the one who decided to go off-topic here so don't blame me. You just had to get your little dig in about my beliefs in a passive-aggressive way. This thread is about people who feel sorry for rapists and murderers. Maybe you should read your own rules?

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/announcements.html

But I digress. If you want to talk about things that have nothing to do with the basic premiss of the thread, start a topic about it and discuss it. I rarely see you in the Race Relations forum debating the facts with us racists.

 

the relative understood both of them were victims to circumstances beyond their control, criminals are often victimized by their environment and it influences their actions

 

You're not possibly a real person.

 

He's a right winger trying to make left wingers look even worse by exaggerating/fabricating/falsifying "liberal" ideas/beliefs. I don't know whether that's a good or bad thing.

 

How do you know this?

That did cross my mind once while reading his posts, but are you just speculating? I think he's a bot.

 

He can't be a bot. Bots would give random irrelevant automated responses. But most "liberals" do not believe anything like he believes. He also uses phrasing that is very negative towards his own supposed liberal ideals. His posting styles make it obvious that he's spoofing "liberal" values.

 

Bots are more sophisticated than that these days. They very well can and do give relevant responses. If he's a real person he might be an actual lib. I've heard them say similarly ludicrous things.

 

Hell, who knows if it's a bot, but I doubt it. He'd be giving responses that came out of a limited pool of possible responses; he gives a unique response every time.

But he wouldn't use that sort of phrasing; for instance when it comes to wealth redistribution, actual leftists don't actually use the term "stealing" with respect to their intents; liberalminority once said "we have to steal from rich people for this reason"; he actually explicitly used the word "steal" several times in that thread. Actual leftists either don't consider wealth redistribution to be theft, or don't explicitly recognize it as such, ever. He's a rightwinger posting as a leftist to make them look bad.

But about leftists and rightists, look at my new sig. It cuts right to the chase about that issue.

 

I actually have had leftists in real life admit that they support stealing in the name of fairness and equality. Granted they were younger so they probably weren't yet aware that this terminology is political suicide in America.

 

Unfortunately, rightists also support stealing, in the somewhat less direct form of crony capitalism. But they absolutely never would recognize it as theft.

 

There is a difference Deathstar and you know it. We have a portion of Rightists actively fighting the RINO's and big government conservatives. The leftists have no such movement of their own.

 

Crony capitalism is every bit as destructive as socialism.