What motivates omega males to get a job?

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  1. sadman66

    sadman66 Newly Registered

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    So I'm pushing into my late 20s and still have not seriously sought a serious job, and my parents are starting to put intense pressure on me. I begrduge the fact that they imposed this miserable life on me, to be a machine for their pathetic deformed selfish-genes, and expect me to positively affirm and work of this "gift" of life as though it were my own valued possession.

    So it seems some people on this forum are good-looking socioable guys who just happen to have a single phobia towards women, or specifically romance with women, and I guess my question does not apply to them. Although perhaps your lives provide a clue out of my dilemma, since your lives are missing what 21st century America backed by the science of evolutionary psychology would claim to be the be-all and end-all of life. And yet an over-all successful life is not marred and is perhaps enhanced by celibacy.

    My dad recommends I find a "niche" in American culture. But for me that seems to mean going to work as a pencil-pusher in some deadend job while my coworkers brag about clubbing over the weekend, some alphamale boss lords it over me, but at least I get to come home to my stamp-collection.

    I know the obvious reason to get a job is to just meet my physiological needs. And sure I'm a spoiled brat who has avoided dealing with that by living off my parents. Its just hard for me to bring myself to deal with the unpleasantness of work, just to keep this miserable life going.

    I try to use sophisms and rhetoric to trick myself into thinking that work is actually a good thing. But it just doesn't work. Although all my life I've shunned the "fun" side of life, so in a way it is kind of stupid that I refuse to embrace the "boring" sober rational side of life out of spite of the fun drunken irrational side. Well in America the boringness is the price paid for the fun. But I don't get no fun. Work hard, play hard. But since I hate fun, maybe I should embrace the unfunness of work for the sake of unfunness.

    Especially in this economy just getting and maintaining a job takes drive, gusto and will. And I can't even bring myself to embrace getting a job as something I even want, much less strongly driven towards.

    I CAN work pretty hard if motivated for a real human goal, but I'm not a robot who works just because hes ordered to. I got pretty good grades and merits in high school because I was working for a purpose. But that really fell apart in college, when I found the social life to be at a much debauched level than HS. It was a big disappointment with all the promises of college being the big payoff. And since college, I just haven't had direction in life.

    But I have taken a very hard self-critical look at my own values as part of an internal debate to convince myself to embrace the culture. I asked myself what is the basis of my own puritanism? Really the only good answer I could come up with is that it degrades women. But as I take a closer look at that, if anything the vast majority of women live much better lives than me an omega male. So my white knighting for them seems very Don Quixotic. And so if there are no "victims" to feel sorry for in the sexual world, and rationally I have no real need to be a part of it, why angst over it?

    EvoPsych has really contributed to my depressing worldview, with the belief that life is just about using sex to pass on selfish-genes and that female sexual selection selects for the cruelest, most brutal alpha males. What kind of a world is that to live in? Still, if I stop white-knighting, I really don't have a horse in that race.

    So yeah to finish with my original question, what is there to motivate omega males to affirm life through employment?
     
  2. Black Monarch

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    Maybe you should become a self-sufficient farmer or rancher. Then, the work that you do will be directly tied to your physiological needs, rather than indirectly via money. Alternatively, you could try starting up your own business related to some field of interest that you have, and become the next Mark Zuckerberg.
     
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    old timer New Member Past Donor

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    It is called supporting yourself. What will do if your parents are no longer around to support you?
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Omega, check.
    Self involved, check.
    Depressed, check.


    The answer to your question is nothing. It is based on a false premise and does not address the root cause of your mental state.
     
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    This can't be real. No human being is this self involved and so pathetic but just in case.

    It's easy. Tell your parents shut up, continue to live in your room, and I would suggest a drug habit. Say intravenous injection of heroin. That will solve your mental problems, and once you become so addicted you are stealing from your parents, that will gain revenge on them for having "deformed selfish genes" Eventually you will either die from an overdose, starvation or disease and this horrible life you lead will be over and none of us will ever miss you.

    Problem solved. That will be 5 cents please.

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  6. webrockk

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    Being an introvert or socially clumsy is not a crime....but you 'seem' clinically depresssed...look into your options with that...counseling, medication, etc.... it may make it easier to shed some of that acute self loathing and negativity you've got going on, and focus on finding the "niche" your father spoke of.
     
  7. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Maybe you should read this article. Seems to hit pretty close to home.

    American pop culture keeps producing endless variations on the omega male, who ranks even below the beta in the wolf pack. This often-unemployed, romantically challenged loser can show up as a perpetual adolescent (in Judd Apatow's Knocked Up or The 40-Year-Old Virgin), or a charmless misanthrope (in Noah Baumbach's Greenberg), or a happy couch potato (in a Bud Light commercial). He can be sweet, bitter, nostalgic, or cynical, but he cannot figure out how to be a man.
    —Hanna Rosin, "The End of Men," The Atlantic, June 8, 2010


    I've worked since high school and can't imagine not having a job. Working is what motivates me to get up every morning. Guess that's the difference between our philosophies. I find work challenging where you seem to think of it as a burden to be avoided if at all possible.

    The previous poster was right... what's gonna happen when mommy & daddy can't support you anymore?
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Just wake up every morning and do what you need to do to live your life. And yes, you will probably be a mindless robot. Thats what the bourgeoisie want from you.

    Work isn't that difficult.
     
  9. Lil Mike

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    First, you need to figure yourself out. I recommend this:

    Jung Typology Test

    That should help you figure out what sort of personality type you are, and from that, what sort of job you either may like, or at least tolerate.

    Second, stay away from "game." Based on your descriptive vocabulary, you've read far too much of it and it's attacking your self worth. Why else would you call yourself an omega male?

    Third, even before you get a job, you are going to have to start doing something. Or at least something out of the house. A hobby, working out, or even something as simple as walking.

    If you get that far, you might start to feel well enough to want to get a job.
     
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    You've had no great war, no great depression. You are one of millions of pissed off youths in their 20's who see how bleak the future is.

    The thing I enjoy most from working is working hard. Not slacking off, not taking the easy road. My manager sees that I don't BS and work hard and that's how I got to be the #3 manager in the store. Nothing to brag about really, but considering I started as a part-time cashier at $7.35, jumping a month later to $9 is something that would have taken me years as a cashier to get.

    The future? If I continue to work hard I will get promoted and married to the store pulling a good salary for a 45+ hour week worrying about a million things no rational person should have to worry about. But that's down the road a bit.

    Looking back I was manager and even VP and I got it from hard work. And in addition to the monetary reward, you get a sense of accomplishment from doing something hard and doing it correctly.

    It is pretty amazing that in America you can take virtually any job and with hard work comes experience, advancement and the perks. And even if that doesn't pan out you take that with you somewhere else where they do reward you better.

    Bottom line- you gotta start working, kid. You need to make your own money. Might as well attack this responsibility and turn it into something instead of lamenting.
     
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    America's prisons are over flowing with folks who thought honest work was for suckers...

    Don't drop the soap.
     
  13. perdidochas

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    Are you Catholic? If so, become a priest. Won't have to worry about sex. Most priests have a housekeeper to keep them fed. No worry about pencil pushing or having fun or listening to coworkers brag about sex (except in the confessional).
     
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    If I were your parents, I'd set a monthly rent amount for you and make you sign a rental agreement for your room. If you failed to pay I'd legally evict you. Here is some advice...Life is hard...get used to it and the crap you have to do to survive is less distasteful. Have a fun day.
     
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