What privilege do white people have?

My workplace is very diverse. Lots of women and blacks.

I'm talking about the culture as a whole -- when you see movies advertised, they're aimed at white people. The heros of those movies are (in order): any white guy, Will Smith, Morgan Freeman, Samuel L. Jackson, Vin Diesel, and Densel Washington. When you turn on the radio, 90% of the stations are music aimed at white people, with maybe a black rap station or two if you're in a major city. TV, it's the same kind of thing -- it's aimed at making the kind of shows white people want to watch, staring white people. When shows deal with issues, they mostly deal with white issues. When politicians go on TV to talk about issues, they talk about white issues.

When you do business, it's generally done in white ways (as in it's based on Anglo-Saxon customs, not African or Asian customs), even when you talk about international business. The dress that gets you success is more or less European -- the suit and tie comes from Europe. You get more credibility in the business world if you have a standard white accent rather than having a forgein accent or a black accent. You won't be made to feel uncomfortable if you like white stuff -- you can listen to country music all day, and no one will say a word. Try listening to rap at work, see what happens.

 

There is no way anyone can convince me that these companies do not have built in discrimination, and invisible brick walls that people of minority status are not allowed to breach.

 

Interesting, so whites prefer to live with whites yet its the multiculturalists and those behind mass immigration that know best. Like your socialist buddies of years gone by i suspect they'd love to build a fence around them to keep them in.

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Theres laws in place to deal with workplace discrimination, you are more than welcome to take them to court based on your evidence.

 

Im not trying to be a board member. So I don need to take anyone to court. But you cant, wont, and will never ever convince me that not having anything but white males as board members for the 17 years I have been here, and the 30 years my company has been in buisness, isnt anything other than discriminatory. ( im not implying my company is practicing racism. Im saying the trading firms are. Since they appoint who is going to be on our board, not us )

 

No, it means that I probably know something you don't.

I disagree with you, not to oppose you... but because I know/believe that you are wrong.

 

You are ignoring or disregarding much. Any decent thinker realizes that there is more to things than you tend to acknowledge.

You have a right to your view/perspective... but it would behoove anyone to consider a wider range of views overall.

 

What you're talking about is actually not white culture, but an anecdotal experience. At most diverse places I've worked, the music played was rap or hip hop and not my style. Nor is a professional suit a 'white' thing. I hate suits, but if I want to go in for an interview I wear something nice. It doesn't matter that I prefer to wear might be called 'white trash' clothes.

And that's the rub. Your comparing 'proffessional' with what might be termed 'black trash.' What could be termed 'white trash' is treated no better than what may be termed 'black trash' yet you're making some distinction that what is professional is just 'white' and what is unprofessional is 'black trash'. That's an inaccurate distinction that you're making.

Color really has nothing to do with the distinction you're making. I feel no privilege to wear a suit, believe me.

 

Who the heck said anything about building a wall? I simply said the amount of racism in society wasn't that hard to measure if you look at certain market-driven indicators (property values being the most obvious). As for White Flight, that phenomena is a mix of racism and fear of the higher crime rates of some urban Black populations, so trying to figure out what percentage is due to which cause is tricky.

Of course there is a natural tendency for people to want to live beside people who are familiar in custom, dress, speech and appearance. This is just as true if several families of Bosnian Muslims moved into your neighborhood as if it were several prosperous and conservative Black families. It's the degree of unthinking prejudice towards "the Other" that defines racism.

 

Market forces are'nt racist, they are what they are. If you and you're culture are counter productive market forces will reflect that.

I ask you, If its so obvious people dont value multi culture why do you wish to force it upon them? You see market forces showing you most people reject it, but most leftist take the position 'we know what you need'. How did you come to this position given the facts you're telling me? People spend serious dollars to escape it.......as you pointed out. You may call that racism, i call it natural human instinct, shown by every race all over the planet for 10s of thousands of years. We prefer to live with our own and those that share our beliefs.

 

Ditto everything you just said. I don't get lefty thinking at all. Its as if the majority of our WHITE population has to be guided by the whims and or the standards set by the un productive minority class of people. We WHITES are being forced to accept quotas, affirmative action, lax voter identification rules, increased urban crime, guilt over profiling the criminal element of our society, multiculturalism, and a complete trashing of our Constitution, our Founders traditions and Christianity. And if we don't fall into lockstep with all of these demands or ridiculous societal abnormalities--then of course we're all put into the default position by being labeled racists.

 

Uuhhm I just so happen to be in the business world, could you tell me what is the Asian customs of doing business? I'm counting on you giving an answer as epic as "getting the cargo without pay". Please, indulge me, I could always use a good laugh.

No, Indians wear T-shirts to negotiations, Turks wear T-shirts to negotiations, Chinese wear T-shirts to negotiations, Korean wear T-shirts to negotiations. Even european wear T-shirts to negotiations. The only time I had seen business professionals wearing suits and ties were for photo ops. And it's not all just small companies, it's fortune 500 companies.

And you blame that on white people? Are you trying to tell everyone how unreasonable you are? It is a reputation long established.

And as a business guy, I can tell you that is just horse dump. No business man would judge a person's credibility by his accent.

Oooooh, look at me, I have never done any business with anyone and I'm speculating how businessmen do there work!

Oh and, could you please explain what is a 'black' accent? Are you by any chance, racist? It doesn't matter if you are, a lot of white guys here in this forum are.

Ok you work in a laundry shop, right? In an IT firm, the ground are usually carpeted and female employees would even bring an extra pair of shoes if the pair on her foot makes click click sound.

People would have to tab you because they fear you might not hear them through the headphone.

 

Of course they do! And the reason they do but haven't been punished by intense market competition is because they do not have to answer to market forces, or in other words, consumers, the small people.

IT firms have more asians, whereas entertainment industries have an unusual percentage of africans.

Bosses hire people to make money, so they hire the most competent, not the whitest. Bankers don't have to do that because they answer to congressional overlords, (which has been an Aryan nation since... the beginning?) not consumers.

 

You're missing the point. Market forces aren't inherently racist or non-racist; they reflect the supply of things available and the demand for those things. If the demand for some things is affected by the racism of some individuals, then that racism affects the market forces. In some cases being racist can be counterproductive to things like market share or the cost of advertising, but the reality of society still imposes itself on business.

I ran across a great example from right next door in Canada. Apparently a lot of Canadian-produced TV ads are shot in English and run everywhere but the province of Quebec (the French-speaking province). The advertiser doesn't dub the ad in question into French and release it in Quebec; they actually shoot the same ad with French dialogue and Quebec-looking actors and then run that seperate TV ad in Quebec.

 

I am sorry but you must see something different in the article so you should comment.

 

Oh, thanks. You did see something different. A well written article about somebody's experience makes the person an idiot in your mind. Again you will have to tell me more because I do not think that she is an idiot.

 

Really?

I don't feel poor Ace.

 

No, white males rule the American Congress.

 

You ask a lot of questions.

Are you writing a book?

If you are, make it a Mystery.

 

You didn't need it. "A lot" is an exaggeration today.

 

Speaking untruths do not help your case.

 

Recent history is not in the right playbook. If it isn't 100 or 200 years old, it has not place in the right's thinking.

 

What a despicable question. Jim Crow is not a myth.

 

Because right wing policies have made it harder for all middle class to advance, you say "white privilege" is dead instead of pointing the finger at the real problem.

 

OK, so white privilege is dead in 99% of the economic landscape, and for that top 1%, it is impossible to get there anyway. Blacks problems are theirs because they insist on separating themselves from the rest of us. They insist on talking about white privilege instead of economic class as a whole. Than if you single them out and point to detrimental cultural trends, they scream racism.

The facts remain, if you are a motivated black person you will get legs up not available to Asians or whites, regardless of social class. Why most blacks do not take advantage of lowered standards and preferential treatment is another matter. It is their if they want it, and breeding animosity in their fellow poor and middle class whites.

 

The rights and privileges of white people are steadily and rapidly diminishing. Due to affirmative action, white people already have far fewer rights and privileges than black people. But it is justifiable and to be expected.

For centuries black people have suffered and endured atrocities at the hands of white people. It's revenge time. It's clearly the right time to practice white apartheid.