What privilege do white people have?

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  1. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    I've never spoken a lie in my lifetime, and that is further enforced by reading my signature.
     
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    White privilege is not dead. The bottom 98% have economic stagnation. If that is fixed, white privilege would return. Still it is very hard for you to blame the real culprits and policies.

    White people talk about it too because it exists. I guess that you think that I and the woman who wrote the article are separating ourselves from our own race.

    Both blacks and whites are concerned about economic class because the gap is widening between the top 2% and the bottom 98%.

    If you single out a race for political reason, you are racist.

    That is not a fact but only your opinion based on flawed analysis and bias.

    First, you believe that it is a privilege to them. Second, it looks like, if you want to be in politics, the right will go after you for using it. Third, many do not need to use it because things are better. Not that racism still doesn't exist but racists have to keep their mouth shut in public. There are also better laws against all discrimination.
     
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    Sorry, I was being polite by using "untruths". "The only thing that determines if a certain person of a particular race is better off than someone from another race is their own innate desire to better themselves." - that is a lie.
     
  4. Libhater

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    No, its the truth. You don't give the individual much credit to better themselves, do you? Excuse me for saying this, but you sound like a leftist, in that those people you see as oppressed cannot possibly make it in life without the help of the nanny state. I happen to have more faith in mortal man than you do.
     
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    Excuse me for saying this but you did not understand what I said. "The only thing" is wrong. Racial factors are involved. Poor education is involved. Even appearances are involved. A handsome black person has a better chance than an ugly white person and visa versa. A man has a better chance if white and a woman has a better chance if black. A taller man has a better chance than a shorter man. Maybe not a taller woman.

    Using absolutes can get you in trouble often but not "always".
     
  6. FixingLosers

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    Do we have Jim Crow now? Why are there still "black schools"?

    Let me tell you something: a former colleague of mine (korean) sent her kid to a district with predominantly black residents. The kid got bullied all the time, all sorts of racist slurs, and he was told to "go back to vietnam", while the kid told everybody in the class the first day he is from Korea.
     
  7. Libhater

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    You're still not getting this I see. Our argument stems from my saying that people can better themselves to the point of being better off than someone else regardless of their race. You see, individual distinctions (race) and or circumstances doesn't need to hold anyone down. For example, I grew up in an environment where I suffered extreme physical and emotional abuse as an adolescent. I didn't rely on the government or anyone else to feel sorry for me for my screwed up psychological condition; I persevered in life to the point of getting a college degree and overcoming every obstacle thrown in front of me. So don't give me this bull that any person has a better chance than anyone else to better themselves. It just isn't so.



    Using absolutes can get you in trouble often but not "always".[/QUOTE]
     
  8. ThirdTerm

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    Whites do have advantages in employment in countries with no affirmative action policies (i.e. Britain, Canada) and people with foreign-sounding names are experiencing difficulties in getting jobs which fit their qualifications. Highly-skilled workers recruited from abroad often get stuck in dead-end jobs and both Britain and Canada have announced to scale back on their skilled worker programmes.
     
  9. FixingLosers

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    We can single out Asians, and nobody would dare to call their culture "destructive".

    Guess if we were "racist", we are racist even when it comes to being racist.


    Asians are less numerous, less preferentially treated, yet they are far more successful than the African community. I wonder why is that.



    Yes it is.
    For instance?

    But many still do. I guess people would have to do a background check every time when socializing with black people to distinguish those who exploited the privileges and those who didn't.

    No laws can stop discrimination. And I hear white people using racial slurs all the time, I hear black people using racial slurs all the time. Yes, in public. The recent Paula Deen incident is just a tip of iceberg.
     
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    So I read the whole article, I guess I do not see white privilege as much as a boy terrorized by his brethren. Here was African American male brought up to believe that in 1984 the klan still lynched blacks for dating whites, that the girl who decided to date the black guy did it out of spite to her family. What happened in this relationship, the male would not embrace his girlfriend because he been terrorized growing up to think that what happened in the 50-60's and before still happened in 1984. When he laid on the bed with his girlfriend and her dad turned around he got scared, yet nothing happened, no racial slur from the dad, no do not date my daughter, nothing, the father was happy that his daughter was happy.

    This is another article that shows what happens when you fill little heads with b.s., that you can terrorize a young man of non white skin into believing what is unbelievable. I am not saying that racism does not exist, what I am saying is that maybe we should not push race to the fore front of every day happenings. America has racist people in it, but not everyone is racist.
     
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    "Recent history is not in the right playbook. If it isn't 100 or 200 years old, it has no place in the right's thinking."

    I said that a few post ago and you have verified it. 45 years ago is not in your playbook. But anecdotes are still in your playbook.
     
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    I am getting it. You are backtracking from your original foolish statement so that you can avoid saying that you were wrong. The folly of the right is never admitting that they are wrong.

    Speaking of bull, you can whip out an anecdote for every occasion.
     
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    I stand by my original statement that a person of any race can always better themselves to the point of being better off (whatever way you want to take that) than another from another race simply by having the innate drive and desire to do so.
     
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    That is not your original statement but you know that. You must have a problem in admitting mistakes.
     
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    Not my original statement? Do tell!
     
  16. FixingLosers

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    No no no no no no, answer the question, do we have Jim Crow now? Or perhaps you'd prefer to explain how something happened 50 years ago still influence so heavily the current school system? In case you don't know, there are latino schools and asian schools too. It's not uncommon.
     
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    [/QUOTE]

    I would agree with you about absolutes, Libhater, but disagree with you about picking out a particular individual. If you look at aggregate populations and take their average, the average Black American is at a disadvantage compared to the average White American. Obviously some individuals will buck the trend, but that doesn't mean the trend isn't there.
     
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    That is my quote to libhater. He thinks by adding quotes around my "always" that he can try to weasel out of the absolute that he used. He said the "only" factor in people getting ahead is their drive. Therefore there are no reason to help other races.
     
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    Qualifications get you in the door, it's what you do with them that matters. I work with people of all races at all levels at major corporations on a daily basis.
     
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    I do not understand your thinking. You are saying that it is okay for others to work harder to get to the same level as someone who doesn't work as hard. Of course, that is not fair and many of us think that we should level the playing field. Your view comes from the attitude "I got mine, work harder to get yours".

    It is a selfish view.
     

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