What "Race" ?

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by NYCmitch25, Feb 11, 2013.

  1. Gemini_Fyre

    Gemini_Fyre New Member

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    This might not jive with your public school ejuh-muh-kay-shun. But you are saying that all choice is removed and that we are essentially beasts without higher thought. This is crazy. Key word was I said they tend to choose those of similar race. It is by no means absolute. The rest of your post still lacks a reason to respond to it. If you read your post before you submitted it you'd realize just how crazy it sounds.

    You have drunk too much multi-culti cool aid.
     
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    Gemini_Fyre New Member

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    The coloration obviously. Now I am no expert in cat breeds, but i could tell you that a Siamese and a calico are different from each other. Despite being able to easily breed with each other. Some breeds color variation is greater than others.
     
  3. wyly

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    :roll: whatever...
     
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    Really? I hope your never thrown in prison, you'll have to decide on your race then. Fact is people do recognize race and thats the reality.
     
  5. Middleroad

    Middleroad New Member Past Donor

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    Whenever a racial conversation comes up, I always reflect on PuertoRicans they are black, brown, white and they all consider themselves the same, hispanic. Im guessing because thats what theyve always known since birth, growing up everyone was different colors and its not unusual or special to them. Its the same with other hispanic countries, brazil etc.
     
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    wyly Well-Known Member

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    exactly, but for many insular americans that have never left their social network let alone their country that's just crazy talk...here I am a blue eyed blonde northern euro with a circle of friends of every colour from every continent and I fail to see how my friends are different than me simply because of skin colour...it defies logic, it defies science...
     
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    hang on, different colours means they are different races/breeds/sub-species according to Gemmi logic! it's obvious anyone can see it despite what the cats DNA reveals :roll:...

    in fact cats like dogs are all the same, regardless of colour, size, shape, they are all still the same single specie just like humans...a "breed" of cat or dog is just the result of genetic inbreeding, in humans it's called incest...
     
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    Middleroad New Member Past Donor

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    I dont know how old you are, but race relations are alot different than they were when I was growing up. I was not a rich kid I lived in the city and lived and went to school in a mixed atmosphere, if I were to guess however I would have to say there were more whites than blacks and hispanics, but there were more minorities than in most neighborhoods.
    Older white americans like me, grew up with a different set of mores and beliefs than younger people. Its not hate its races viewed through a different set of eyes. Of course theres racists, but the older people im around and theres quite a few I belong to a few organizations theres absolutely no HATE talk about races even amongst an all white crowd. Id bet though if you asked them specific questions you wouldnt like their answers, they come from a different time.
     
  9. taikoo

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    And in my case, hatred for Japanese was just like breathing the air, everywhere and inevitable.

    Natural, assumed superiority over lesser peoples like Indians or Filipinos
    was equally in the air.

    My mom would have none of it, but that was the exception.

    I think the USA may well be one of the least racist countries, but the USA has such a hollywood mentality; exaggerate EVERYTHING and then broadcast it to the world.
     
  10. Gemini_Fyre

    Gemini_Fyre New Member

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    You have yet to prove anything yourself there bub. Just because I don't exist to debunk every stray thought that exits your head doesn't mean you are right, having eyes alone proves you're wrong. I am content to let others believe what they will even if they are completely wrong. Regardless of whether or not "science" agrees with me.

    You might also learn that just because it isn't scientific according to you, or whatever organization you may adhere to, doesn't make it the end of the line when it comes to knowledge and truth. But you can continue this way if you wish, the option is yours.

    And I noticed you failed to debunk the link by the other poster in reference to genetics despite the fact that he could without mistake identify a person's race by DNA.
     
  11. Gemini_Fyre

    Gemini_Fyre New Member

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    You're splitting hairs at this point while simultaneously trying to bait me. But hey, I'll play for a moment of fun.

    I did say that some breed's color variation is greater than others. Just as there are varying shades of "whiteness" and "blackness" but are still the same basic breed/race.

    Tell this nonsense to anybody who breeds dogs. Or the AKC registry. Species, yes. All the other junk you posted, no, not in the least. It might surprise you to know that there is more to race than just color too.
     
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    Middleroad New Member Past Donor

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    If we lived in a country where whites were always the minority, nothing would change. Blacks, hispanics, Japanese, indians would have the same level of hatred and contempt for them and whites would have the same attitude.
     
  13. wyly

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    how old am I? too old...I grew up in that different time, one of my relatives founded the Apartheid system in S Africa, I was a kid when he was assassinated back in the 60's...I lived in an euro community where people of colour were rare, racist attitudes were the norm but as there were few people of colour discrimination was directed at specific euro ethnic groups instead...not until I was in Uni and thinking for myself did the idiocy of racism become apparent...I re-educated my racist family and when I married my ethnic chinese gf mrs wyly they accepted her, her parents took quite awhile longer to accept me...my family is no longer overtly racist but they still hold some stupid ideas...I still encounter people my age or older who make racist comments thinking I'm one of them and I share their idiocy, at one time I would have challenged them on their views but now I figure they'll be dead soon enough and I just remove them from my social circle...

    colour of skin isn't a relevant distinction, mrs wyly and I are both children of immigrants she is as canadian as I am, local kids here define canadian born east asians like mrs wyly as a "banana" yellow on the outside white on the inside) very different from chinese born in china, any differences are cultural and not biological/colour in origin...culturally mrs wyly would be just as out of place in china as I would be...
     
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    and it all stems from genetic ignorance...hating someone for their skin colour makes a much sense as hating tall people or people with red hair or big noses, it's really illogical...as I just posted previously in my home town because of the lack of colour the hate was directed toward ethnic groups and immigrants, and if you live in a single ethnic group people will find other distinctions such as poverty or class...
     
  15. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    in your world the clouds are made of cotton candy and the moon of cheese because you say so...that would be a classic case of The Dunning–Kruger effect...

    that link was a blog and not a scientific explanation, and I did respond but evidently it was too complex for you to comprehend, DNA does not identify "race" it identifies haplogroups...as I've demonstrated within each population(haplogroup) there can be a wide range of variation...any ethnic group on earth has within it's genetic code 85% of all human variations... dark africans can and are born with green eyes, aborigines have blondes, red hair is found everywhere not just in europeans...
     
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    Middleroad New Member Past Donor

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    I think your missing the real reason, its not just skin color actually that has the least to do with it. Its cultural and lack of understanding. The ethnic hatred between europeans was just as intense in this country when immigration first started and they were all the same color.
     
  17. Gemini_Fyre

    Gemini_Fyre New Member

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    Dude, who ever said anything about hating anybody? I know I sure don't and would wager most don't, especially off of something like skin color. You gotta be kidding me here.
     
  18. wyly

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    I think covered that, I agree it is cultural/social but people out of ignorance link cultural differences to colour...mrs wyly is ethnic chinese but she is not at all like her co-workers who are recent chinese immigrants, there is a considerable cultural difference between them...mrs wyly's canadian born cousin recently married an ethnic chinese girl from panama but other than ethnicity she is no more chinese than he is, she's panamanian a latino...
     

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