What should America do about North Korea?

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What should America do about North Korea?

  1. Limited Military strike

    4 vote(s)
    14.3%
  2. Full scale invasion and regime change

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  3. Rely on China to induce more sanctions

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  4. Bring an international coalition against North Korea in military action

    4 vote(s)
    14.3%
  5. There is nothing America can do. We must live with a nuclear NK.

    10 vote(s)
    35.7%
  6. Other - please reply below

    6 vote(s)
    21.4%
  1. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    They were cooperating with the UN. The UN said so.
     
  2. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    Well, then, what is Xi Jinping waiting for?! The sooner he knocks off the insane little pustule in Pyongyang, the safer we'll ALL be.... Oh, I know... Xi is leveraging his "help" with NK as a quid pro quo for us recognizing his man-made "islands" in the South China Sea. I never said the Chinese are STOOPID, just because we are in about 90% of our foreign policy decisions....

    In truth, no, we cannot completely and instantly neutralize all NK weapons that are poised against South Korea, Japan, and possibly other targets. We can, however, unleash devastating tactical and strategic force against the NK military that will render it helpless in very short order.... Might some thousands of South Koreans or Japanese be killed in such a conflict? Yes. Is this preferable to MILLIONS being killed after NK has real ICBM's and thermonuclear warheads mounted on them...? If it's your choice, Questerr, what is your call...?

    I won't be coy. I'll go first. And yes, I would rather that huge numbers of casualties are sustained in any other foreign country before even one single nuclear weapon is detonated in an American city. I took an oath to defend the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and that oath never expired! We can and should fight to defend our friends and allies, but, to me, NOTHING is more important than protecting the United States of America.... :flagus:
     
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  3. Questerr

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    Now all you have to do is demonstrate that North Korea would use nuclear weapons. The choice you are attempting to make is a false dichotomy. You have zero evidence supporting your claim that North Korea will kill any millions of people.
     
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    North Korea is just coming out of one of their bad famines. Although their gradual economic rebuilding is very slow it has improved over the last year. They are the poorest country that is trying to achieve Nuclear research but simply stating that people are starving is not the point. Every country has people who are starving. I don't want any country to have Nuclear weapons but if some countries do who are they to tell others not to. We went through all this before when Pakistan achieved nuclear Weapons.
     
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    I just hope his nukes fall short and don't hit around you. I would love to come back here and be able to tell you you were wrong.
     
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    I guess you were watching a different news than I was all those years.
     
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    Why do you think he wants them? Does he believe having them will make him safe from invasion? He would be wrong. Nuclear weapons are not the reason we don't invade China or Russia or why nobody invades us, it is because our military's are formidable and we can all negotiate. These are things Kim is short on and he probably thinks he can take a first strike hard enough and we will just cower in the corner, which some in this country would do.
     
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    I am pretty sure we can get it done in short order and make it look like war games or something.
     
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    So, you are going to completely ignore almost every single word that has come out of the NK pustule's mouth since he became "beloved leader"...? Hmmm. Well, following your reasoning, why would anyone mind getting in bed with a cobra...?

    [​IMG]. "You're so paranoid! Why would anyone think that I'm dangerous...?" :roll:
     
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    Utter bullshit. Nukes most definitely do keep us from going to war with Russia or China.
     
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    Considering their threats are always empty posturing and they've been doing the same things for decades? Yes.

    Would I get in bed with that Cobra? You mean the garter snake someone table a fake hood to? Because that scenario more reflects reality regarding North Korea.
     
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    Will it be empty posturing when he attains nuclear ICBMS?
     
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    I don't see why it wouldn't be. It's empty posturing now when he has IRBM's and VX.
     
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    Repeated nuclear weapons testing and ballistic missile launches are not "empty posturing", Questerr. Indeed, I don't care what this ingrown, delusional freak thinks, or what he says... I only care about what he does.

    OK, you didn't like the cobra. Fair enough. How about something more to-the-point -- how would you like to be locked in a room with an idiot child holding a loaded gun...? Oh, and BTW, this particular 'idiot child' has threatened you numerous times! "Empty posturing"? You can't be serious!

    [​IMG]."... and now you can't get away from me!" :skull:
     
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    The *threats* are empty posturing. And always have been.

    There tests are part of a program to create a nuclear deterrent to prevent a possible "regime change" by the US.
     
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    Their tests began during Bill Clinton's regime. He did nothing. The tests continued during Idiot Bush's regime. He did nothing. They reached the point in which NK claims that they have detonated a hydrogen bomb, launched an intercontinental ballistic missile, and put a satellite into orbit -- all during the reign of Idiot Obama, who did nothing....

    Think: if you have an intercontinental ballistic missile that can put payloads into Earth-orbit, and you have a hydrogen bomb, then all you have to do is find a way to mount the hydrogen bomb in the missile and -- TA DAH! -- you've got the once-indomitable United States by the balls!

    Your snappy come-back will be that if they launched a missile with a nuclear weapon in it against us, we would destroy them... right? Brilliant analysis! Of course we would destroy them! And then all those millions of people in your beloved North Korea, and South Korea, AND the American target the NK's hit would all be radioactive ashes!

    Once again, I pose the question -- wouldn't it be better to get rid of this horrific, direct threat right now instead of farting around even longer, waiting for the consequences of our stupid neglect and delay to be even more terrible than they are right now...? :omg:

    Oh, BTW, the same conclusion applies to the insane Islamo-theocracy in Iran!
     
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    So you think the leader of North Korea is suicidal and would launch a random nuclear attack with no provocation just so he can die in nuclear fire from our retaliation?
     
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    I won't gamble with the safety of the United States of America, but you're comfortable doing so? You need to find a job in the higher levels of our government! There's LOTS of people there who think like you do....
     
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    My view is that the US should reaffirm its long standing relationship with South Korea, because that is what this is really about. The US should move forward in tandem with South Korea, not on its own. Whatever we do, it should be done openly and publicly with strong South Korean support. Likewise the US should quash any South Korean assassination attempts or even talk of such, as it goes against American values. I don't doubt the China would stop Iil Kim from using nukes, but all the other hoopla is helpful to them, they can not be relied upon to protect our interests, as they seek to enhance their own interests, and rightly so...
     
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    He might already be dying at the time, in terrible pain and blaming the USA for it. What does he have to lose other then ending his pain if he retaliates for his believing we already have killed him? No one will ever respond to this question. They just assume the mass murderer and torturer is safe, rational and immortal.
     
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    What he has now can't reach us so it has to be empty posturing, when he has something it may not be so empty. You know I would rather make sure he doesn't attain the capability than just trust in luck that he won't use them.
     
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    It is worse than that. President Clinton assured us by allowing N. Korea to build the nuclear power plants to make the material for nuclear weapons then he never would do so. President Obama gave the same reasoning about Iran. That by allowing them all they need to build nuclear weapons then of course they won't.

    Bill Clinton gave N. Korea nuclear weapons just as President Obama gave Iran nuclear weapons.
     
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    He has launched numerous ballistic missiles at our base in Japan and against Japan that failed to reach their target. We only have his word these failed attacks were just "tests."

    If someone repeatedly shot at you on numerous occasions but so far had always missed, would that person claiming "I was just testing my gun in case I ever really wanted to shot him" and "it was to deter him attacking me in the future" be a valid defense in court?
     
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    Do nothing other than to say that an attack upon a U.S. ally will be seen as an attack upon America and we will respond with the full weight of our military and destroy any opposing force!
     
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    If or when we get a nuke in the bread basket all these people on here working for North Korea will say we must have p*ssed them off somehow to make them do that.
     

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