What should the GOP's election policy be for 2024?

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  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    For me I would say;

    1. Law and order, the mood of the nation is getting very hacked off with the anarchy, much like the late 70s.

    2. Anti-wokeness, banning CRT etc, even some on the left are getting hacked off with its' excesses.

    3. Reconciliation with the DNC, trying to bridge the gap rather than widen the divisions.

    What do you think?
     
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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    These all look good if they are coupled with Anyone But Trump. They won't work but that isn't going to happen anyway. Trump has put the GOP ito a a VERY deep hole and I think it will take decades for them to recover
    If you try to run Trump he will lose and then try to start a civil war, He might very well do that whether he runs or not. He won't win in any case but the damage he will cause the country will be less.
     
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    Ask again in 2023, assuming there's anything left of the country to worry about if the Dems keep the House and gain a couple Senate seats in 2022.
     
  4. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    So no specific policies then? Just feel good nonsense?
     
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    He's an anti-American as anyone can be. He'd rather set the place on fire than do what is best for the country or its people.
     
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    inflation

    crime

    anti-socialism
     
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    4. Come, kiss Trump's ass, and become part of the cult.
     
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    Unfortunately, the GOP is a post policy party. They are big on 'issues' that get their base riled up, but don't present policies.
     
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    Running on policies that matter should have been a lesson learned in 2016, but apparently that lesson was quickly forgotten, and now we're back to running against "socialism" or what have you.
     
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    Yep. Socialism, Dr. Suess, no more burgers, big tech censorship - the list is looooong.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Red needs just to not shoot themselves in the foot. Sit back - Relax - and watch the Dems destroy themselves.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most of the people are dumb enough to believe Biden responsible for inflation - so that one will fly.

    Crime ? Red is more responsible for crime than Blue - don't see how that turns independents into Red voters

    Anti Socialism ?! - No idea what you mean by "Anti Socialism" - one of those meaningless nebulous terms that no one else understands either.. Red has been playing the "Socialism" demonization card one too many times .. don't see this as being effective, but worse .. they could be using more correct and meaningful terms such as "Authoritarianism" and most inmportantly "Utililitarianism" followed educating folks on what this evil blue plague looks like.
     
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    I haven't thought much about 2024, I'm more concentrated on 2022 midterms. The midterms will set the tone for 2024 however they go. This Afghanistan thing, although it has hurt Biden and the Democrats is short term. Give it a couple of weeks to a month after the evacuation is completed, it'll be like it almost never happened. Other hot issues and events will have taken Afghanistan's place.

    So much of what will happen in 2024 depends on what takes place in the 2022 midterms. I'd be more focused on those than 2024. That's me anyway.
     
  14. independentthinker

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    Ummmmmmmmmmm, every major city is deep blue and that is where the crime is and it is out of control. It's big time spin to say that reddies are responsible for the high crime rates. It is an issue that will be hammered in 2022.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First off .. your argument about the cities is nonsense - as we all know crime happenes in the cities .. and it matters not whether red or blue is in charge.

    There will always be crime - but the one of the root causes is of a massive amount of crime that does happen in this nation is the drug war .. which is on the head of Red.
     
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    Nonsense. It is leftist policies that have fueled high crime rates.

    Let criminals go

    defund the police

    make the police the bad guys

    police quit in mass

    recruitment lags in mass

    handcuff the police in any way you can so they can't do their jobs
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What nonsense is - is you dismissing the drug war as "Nonsense" - with zero support for claim .. now go learn what an argument is or F-off ... and quit wasting my time.

    Agree that Blue policies are also a factor - just not a bunch of the things you mentioned. -

    Police quitting . is not a root cause of crime .nor defunding the police - . nor making the police bad guys except in hairy fairy sociology land which you hate - but even there is a tough case for significant contribution on the best day.

    Handcuff Police - a small contribution perhaps - but you should be for handcuffing police in general if you have any respect for Republicanism. . as Gov't/Police powers have gotten way out of hand .. are you not for limitations to Gov't power ?

    Letting criminals Go - sure - in some cases I could see that being a real problem - best example of the bunch .. best for last to finish on a positive note.

    Now come back with a response to my claim .. or don't come back - The Drug war is a huge factor.. Prohibition creates crime .. everyone who has heard of Al Capone knows this - do I seriously need to explain "How" to you - but I will on request.

    By legalizing pot you immediately turn 100 million US criminals into law abiding citizens - you also uphold the founding principle - respect for essential liberty - and the rules of a Constitutional Republic .. and remove the stain of illegitimate law which this was 100%. Illigitimacy of authority a major cause of crime for some reasons obvious - some not so obvious and some and some due to cognitive dissonance. When Gov't has no respect for essential liberty - what does this teach our children ?

    Legalization of pot would decreas the "negative" interactions between police and citizens by a huge number - decreases the strain on our courts and penal system.
     
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    Speaking of issues...Senate candidate JD Vance listed the issues he's running on. I wonder if other Republicans would run on a platform similar to this?

    JD Vance Issues

    I didn't notice the word "socialism" on here at all, oh noes!
     
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    You are just reverting to left wing talking points. Ever since the left attack the police and call for police defunding, decriminalizing marijuana and other drugs, crime rates have been soaring. A lot of potheads were into criminal activities. Yeah, it seems petty to lock people up for small pot charges but, as I said, these people were more into other crimes, real crimes, and now we're letting them run around loose and now have higher crime rates. Open up your eyes man. The only thing that has changed in the last year or two are more lefty policies!
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Left wing talking points" .. such as what .. limited Gov't, respect for essential liberty, honoring the founding principles as per a constitutional republic.

    Which of the above is a left wing talking point ? Yer barken up the wrong pole mate.. my arguments againts the left are way better than yours.. . and as it turns out .. it is you who is making a left wing argument. appealing to utilitarianism (fallacious in this case but) as justification for law.

    and defunding the police .. and Pot "the Drug War" .. are two completely separate issues so quit conflating them .. and we are talking POT - not "other drugs" .. quit trying to moved the goalpost.

    "Potheads in to criminal activities" - are you serious - this is your justification for law. Lots of bankers and politicians into criminal activites as well .. should this be illegal ? Oh and those nasty skateboarders as well. ban that. Sounds right up the typical Religious Right Puritianism side of the fence .. the club that has destroyed the party... but never mind...

    What is this nonsense ==???? This is not justification for law on the basis of the founding principle.

    Do you believe in limititations to Gov't power Yes/No I answered for you

    Good so far - then what should those limitations be .. and what are the limitations supposed to be within a Constitutional Republic such as ours.
     
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    Fact is crime has been exploding over the last 1-2 years, which corresponds exactly with the left attacking the police and demanding they be defunded, causing many law enforcement to quit and hurt recruitment. While you handcuff the police from doing their job, crime explodes. The drug war crap is something the left have been harping on for years. The violence has exploded in just the last year for two.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are the one spewing "crap" - left wing propaganda koolaid you have injested .. a RINO who hates the principles of republicanism and who loves the principles of "Collectivism" - aka communism.
     
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    Could you please drink some coffee before posting? Even the left realize that crime as grown exponentially in the last 1 - 2 years. So, what has happened in the last 1 - 2 years? It certainly hasn't been drugs, unless you mean letting everyone out of jail who had been convicted of small drug offenses, who are now free to commit more crimes. But that's not even the main reason. The main reason is the left handcuffing the police so they can't do their jobs, which has led to officers quitting or retiring in droves and making recruiting much, much harder.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Didn't say crime hadn't exploded of late. nor say anything about drugs being responsible for this latest spat of crime .. and addressed the rest of your comments - to which you have no reply.

    We done here :)
     
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    What partisan tripe above.


    The Republican Party :woot:
    The Party Of Working Peoples


    Moi
    :oldman:


    STOP :flagcanada:zing
    :flagus: :salute:
     

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