What the Pandemic Has Taught Us About Science

Well, I managed to keep being educated. I know more today than when I graduated from high school. Even in my college days I did not know this much.

 

Next time you want to brag you are educated, keep that in mind.

 

At the time I was in the 5th grade, I was living in the San Joaquin Valley and the kids around there were farmers. I guess at the school that figured in their lessons. Even in high school, General Science which is not that much, the kids there could avoid science totally. I myself pursued the college courses in school in order to go to college which I then did too. I consider the math I took to be even more valuable to my life than was the science courses. I love Calculus. Physics was also an enormous help and I was so pleased to be a top student there too.

I was never offered any degree by joining the military. I got plenty of offers from the military services to be an officer. I was accepted by the Air Force to become a pilot and turned that down. I probably made a mistake there other than I may have then ended up in Vietnam. I was in and out of the Army ahead of being sent to Vietnam. I got out in 1964 and even in the USA the press hardly mentioned Vietnam. It simply was not then an issue until Johnson made war on North Vietnam. in 1965.
My daughter is now a Registered Nurse and she is good for me to chat about health with. My doctor talks to her too.

 

Most hospitals are not equipped and staffed to deal with something new, widespread and contagious, especially with such generic and varied symptoms overlapping flu season. Not saying donkey vs. elephant political. Saying we have never even attempted to expand our medical capacity to deal with a novel virus of this magnitude.

As far as strains, there is a new one in a rural part of Chile they think may be more contagious (but not more fatal).

 

Climate impacts on all humans. The sheer notion taught by Democrats that man can control climate is to be laughed off as foolish and stupid.
CV19 has to date killed about less than a tenth of a percent of our population. Heart Attacks killed more than that and you do not see me wearing a mask over that crap. Imagine you wanted to collect CV19/ Well the mask makes a wonderful collector. The virus protection on the mask helps when on, then you do not toss it off the face, you use your hands to remove it. Guess what you put onto your hands? You loaded your hands up with the virus. Trump is a good test case for CV19. First he is like me only a bit younger so we are in the age to get it and die. Trump was told by his doctor he has an immunity now. That is what his medicine did for him.
We could discuss climate on a new thread if you want one started. I studied this when getting my pilot license so it stuck with me as a good thing to understand since 1980.

 

I can't talk for any hospital much less the hospitals all over America. Who informed you that most hospitals are not now equipped? I will not refute any of that given I do not know. What I like to apply to this is math. Math works wonders.
We have well over 330 million living here including the illegals, guests and perhaps others.

So to apply math, we have
Deaths
214K (4280 per state)
+591 (yesterday) (50 states = 12 per state avg)

While that is many, it is not even in the same area as fatal heart attacks.
We are not told a lot about the disease other than people get sick to varying degrees and some of those end up dying.
Trump is a good experiment. Trump recovered and used an immune treatment plus more to recover.

Is this nation far more scared than they ought to be?
Based on the daily promotion of fear by our mass media, I should say we are.

The media does not give a flip over heart disease or cancer but they are wound up like tight springs over this virus. They act like we have a disease similar to spanish flu. Notice they seem not to want it compared to the Spanish flu.

The media and Democrats do it due to politics. If Biden should win, they will shut this down like it is the sniffles.

 

About half of urban hospitals have no available ICU beds and it is worse in rural areas, let alone all the bells and whistles.

Anyway, my area was very concerned about the flu prior to covid which it turned out may have been a blessing in disguise in keeping snotty hacky flu people at home long enough for the seasons to change.

 

It has taught me nothing new about science.
Science is a every developing affair.
Nothing in science is 100%, absolutely nothing. Even if we prove many of the things Einstein in his Theories predicted, there might still be something out there which, shows a mistake.
For me there is 3 kinds of science, theoretically, discovery and working.
Theoretically points into a direction.
Discovery uses theoretically, to discover.
Working puts all of it to gather.

But c19 is teaching us something about Working, it needs gigantic amounts of money to get results.
Obscene amounts of money.
But if they are available, Working explodes. The knowledge is there, the tech is there to get extremely fast results. It is all about money, nothing more.

If the Western countries would spent half the money, or just a quarter, of their defense budgets on science, were could we be, today ?

Lets take the Moon project. Money did not mater. From constant blowing up rockets to the Landing in 7 years.
Rock solid, Money Talks.
Take c19 vaccines.
It takes normally years to develop a vaccine, research and testing, from the lab, through the 3 phases and than certification. It costs millions and you have a chance that it will have to serious side effects, or is not good enough.
The scientists have to wring those funds out of the bean counters. The medication has to have the potential to make a solid profit.
With c19 there is no funding problem. Instead of years we are talking of month, 7 or 8 month.
Science is in the end about money, yes and politics.

 

I like Richard Feynman's attempt at humor. He's not far off in some cases.

There are honest scientists like Judy Mikovits, and then there is the opposite of the honest scientist, like Anthony Fauci and Robert Redfield. They are more accurately called bureaucrats, not scientists.

The Purdue Pharma Oxy Contin story demonstrates how doctors and scientists are often just mercenaries. Doctors and scientists can be honest and principled individuals, or they can be hired guns, to say and write what they are paid to say and write.

Plandemic suggests that the corrupt scientists might outnumber the principled scientists.

 

You will discover that Lesh is totally preoccupied with QAnon. He accuses anybody he disagrees with of being a member. Simple is as simple does.

 

I wish someone would explain to me what it is. I thought maybe it was a crazy blog or something. You say there are memberships? I’ve had a couple people lately say my posts are QAnon, but all my posts on science subjects like C19 are based on my college/university biology education and formal science, mostly published peer reviewed research.

I figure when no detractors can present formal research to counter my posts I’m doing something right. I’m not here to be popular, I’m here in search of and to disseminate facts and truth.

 

I know little to nothing about the organization.

 

Only those that spout QAnon nonsense

Which sadly includes the President far too often

 

QAnon nonsense

 

You seem to be the resident expert on QAnon. Can you explain what it is? I’d really like to know. I’m not being facetious, I’m genuinely curious.

 

Sure...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

 

Geez. You follow that stuff? Looks confusing as hell, too. The only person I know personally who I’ve ever heard mention liking QAnon is big into solidarity with Jews. Your wiki says QAnon is anti Semitic. No matter, I appreciate the link but I’ll leave you to it. Reminds me of people playing Dungeons and Dragons when I was younger. Never understood the draw.

I still don’t understand your referencing QAnon in your responses to me. I don’t see National Academy of Sciences, The Lancet, Cell, Europe PMC, University of Cambridge, Medical/Life Sciences News, NCBI, WebMD, John Hopkins, Statista, CDC, or Nature mentioned anywhere in the Wiki. Those are an abbreviated representative sample of where my information outside of my formal education and actual day to day work with vaccines, herd immunity, virology, and anatomy/physiology comes from. I guess that’s why we seldom agree. You are fixated on crazy internet cults and I’m into pure and applied sciences. Anyway, thanks for the link. We can agree that’s nuts.

 

Follow it?

No I see it on this board and others all the time. I see Trump spew some of it on Twitter.

Do you realize how NUTS that is?

 

@Lesh was kind enough to direct me to Wiki for self education on QAnon. Sacred Bovine! You aren’t missing anything.

 

I guess I don’t know how you’d recognize something being sourced from somewhere you don’t follow. I don’t see anything being directly referenced back to QAnon here. I don’t do Twitter either but don’t you choose what you see there?

Nothing surprises me here anymore, man. I was informed the other day monoclonal antibodies were made out of abortions. You tell me, did that come from QAnon or Trump’s Twitter?

I’d still be interested to know what I’ve posted specifically that has any relation to QAnon.

 

Trump retweeting Q garbage

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/12/trump-tweeting-qanon-followers-357238

 

Not nonsense, Plandemic II is a superb analysis of facts and records. Likely that is the reason it frightens you.

 

If you're a QAnon type I guess

 

~ Scientists are learning as we are - a little at a time. Unfortunately they are often influenced by politics and are afraid to admit it.

 

Those that BELIEVE in conspiracies have ZERO interest in either FACTS or the TRUTH.