What the Pandemic Has Taught Us About Science

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I too have noticed those same things. Notice too on the pandemic, Democrats refuse to give Trump credit for the vaccines though he richly deserves credit. Especially in two areas. Prepaying for the drug research and a supply of vaccines. Fast action by Trump to get vaccines approved very fast.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In doing so the democrat party and the media have now switched their caterwauling to "why are people not instantly getting all their shots?" all the while forgetting that task is not the responsibility of the president who wisely put it directly in the hands of the governors.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I will get the vaccination in February. Here the State keeps us very well informed.
     
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    We learned that the right was wrong about yet another major science topic.
     
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    What are you talking about, climate change and agw are real and your side was incorrect about it. It's okay to admit you were incorrect about things. Much like masks and covid vs flu.
     
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    An excellent (although long) article.
    Did the Coronavirus Escape From a Lab?

    Nicholson Baker, New York Magazine

    What happened was fairly simple, I’ve come to believe. It was an accident. A virus spent some time in a laboratory, and eventually it got out. SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, began its existence inside a bat, then it learned how to infect people in a claustrophobic mine shaft, and then it was made more infectious in one or more laboratories, perhaps as part of a scientist’s well-intentioned but risky effort to create a broad-spectrum vaccine. SARS-2 was not designed as a biological weapon. But it was, I think, designed. Many thoughtful people dismiss this notion, and they may be right. They sincerely believe that the coronavirus arose naturally, “zoonotically,” from animals, without having been previously studied, or hybridized, or sluiced through cell cultures, or otherwise worked on by trained professionals. They hold that a bat, carrying a coronavirus, infected some other creature, perhaps a pangolin, and that the pangolin may have already been sick with a different coronavirus disease, and out of the conjunction and commingling of those two diseases within the pangolin, a new disease, highly infectious to humans, evolved. Or they hypothesize that two coronaviruses recombined in a bat, and this new virus spread to other bats, and then the bats infected a person directly — in a rural setting, perhaps — and that this person caused a simmering undetected outbreak of respiratory disease, which over a period of months or years evolved to become virulent and highly transmissible but was not noticed until it appeared in Wuhan.

    There is no direct evidence for these zoonotic possibilities, just as there is no direct evidence for an experimental mishap — no written confession, no incriminating notebook, no official accident report. Certainty craves detail, and detail requires an investigation. It has been a full year, 80 million people have been infected, and, surprisingly, no public investigation has taken place. We still know very little about the origins of this disease.

    Nevertheless, I think it’s worth offering some historical context for our yearlong medical nightmare. We need to hear from the people who for years have contended that certain types of virus experimentation might lead to a disastrous pandemic like this one. And we need to stop hunting for new exotic diseases in the wild, shipping them back to laboratories, and hot-wiring their genomes to prove how dangerous to human life they might become. . . .
     
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    It was Dr. Anthony Fauci who lead the campaign to lift the worldwide ban on "gain of function" research - which is developing biological weapons from viruses in nature. His organizations and others financed the Wuhan Biological Warfare gain of function virus lab. He, Gates and other financial backers - now massively profiting economically and in power - then predicted a coming global pandemic disease - a self fulfilled prophesy.

    Yet it is Dr. Fauci - the person most responsible for covid-19 - that is considered the great hero.
     
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    I expect there will be plenty of reviews done after the pandemic has been controlled.
     
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    An unlikely name!

    How about QANON Zero-s!? Named for how much sense these conspiracy theories have!
     

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