What will you do?

How many do that?

Abortion is FAR Amore expensive than birth control.

Abortion is FAR more inconvenient

So who,relies on abortion for birth control?

 

Actually that's not true. Abortion wasn't really used as a wedge issue until the early 1980s with Operation Rescue when there was a realization that it would be an effective tool to rile up the extreme right.

 

Women have been terminating pregnancies since the dawn of time. And, by the way, it won't stop if they make it illegal....it will just become more unsafe and that will mostly affect the lower middle class and poor. Women that have money will never have an issue getting an abortion. If my kid needed one, it wouldn't be an issue for me to get them one...legal or not.

 

The talking points are strong in this one....

But no. The start date that caused the rise of a national, political anti abortion movement is RvW. Otherwise, there would have been no need for one.

 

lol, no you're just wrong...but its pointless to argue with someone that doesn't know the history of their own party. The decision to use abortion as a extreme right political issue was calculated and planned. Anyway, it hardly matters...if the right tries to make abortion illegal, it will be the biggest political mistake they ever make...and will be horrible for all the women that end up dying. Personally, however, it won't affect me or any member of my family.

 

Ah I see, you think the reason abortion is a national political issue is because of some conspiracy theory about...something, rather than Roe v Wade. So somehow the Republicans made abortion a sacrament in the Democratic Party? Interesting,

 

Yes, the same for me. Luckily we have dual citizenship with Canada and a lot of family there....so it would be easy and free for us to do so.

 

Its not my responsibility educate you. Simply google the background on Operation Rescue and Randall Terry. There were many extreme right people that disliked abortion...and women's rights issues in general because they loathe women and the idea that they might be free and equal. But making abortion rights a coordinated republican party issue was a calculated move. They needed a wedge issue and they devised one. This isn't new news...you're simply uninformed. In fact, I believe there were a number of investigative news programs that ran stories about it.

 

It would be nearly impossible to do so. For instance, if I got pregnant today and went to Canada to get an abortion...my medical records wouldn't be shared. In order to get medical files from Canada to the US now, you actually have to have the records printed and bring them to your US doctor's office (I've done that). The whole idea that abortion will be made illegal would actually be amusing to me, if I didn't know that there will be a lot of poor women that will die. But to watch them try it and watch the corresponding cluster that will happen as a result will be epic.

 

Your "explanation" is why it's probably impossible to educate you. The national anti abortion movement was only possible because Roe v Wade made abortion a national, rather than a state issue. If abortion had been left as a state by state issue, "Operation Rescue and Randall Terry" wouldn't have been able to turn it into a national movement.

 

It should NOT be a state issue.

ALL American citizens should have the right to their own body in every state.

That way the south can't have slavery back...

 

Well, there are several options available to you.

Congress can limit the Supreme Court from dealing with any future abortion cases, thereby freezing the judicial status quo.

Pass a Constitutional amendment that guarantees the right of abortion.

Congress can pass a Federal law that incorporates Roe V Wade as a federal law.

 

It's fine the way it is and the Supreme Court should not be "frozen" on abortion, it needs to slap down the states that have tried to wedge in slavery with nuisance laws (like forced ultrasounds before an abortion)

 

OK...so you don't want these rights established in any law or constitutional amendment, simply part of a poorly decided court decision that is vulnerable to both a case and controversy and a plurality of justices who take the text of the Constitution seriously.

So be it.

 

I think the right to our own bodies is firmly established.

 

It still is a state issue. Which is why some states are enacting restrictions and why the research is in on abortion legislation

https://rewire.news/article/2017/08...goes-hand-hand-poor-maternal-health-outcomes/

 

Is it? Do you have the right to commit suicide? Do you have the right to chop off your arm?

 

<Mod Edit> Roe broke down what states were allowed to regulate by trimester.

 

Don't need any additional laws or amendments since abortion was LEGAL when the nation was founded and was therefore PROTECTED under the 9th and 10th Amendments.

 

Please list the federal laws that make it illegal to commit suicide and/or mutilate yourself.

 

So everything that was not illegal in 1776 is a constitutional right? I like where you are going with this....

Why? did I say it was illegal under federal law?

 

You asked if those things were "rights".

 

Which things?

 

Why don't you try reading your own post?

 

So you've no idea.

Gotcha.