What's to Like about Motorcycles

I owned a 1982 Z28, and it definitely was a sports car. Sure, it had back seats, but they were not functional for normal-sized adults. Besides, the published definition of 'sports car' does not preclude 4-seaters:

"A sports car (sportscar) is a small, usually two seater, two door automobile designed for spirited performance and nimble handling. According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, the first known use of the term was in 1928."[SUP][/SUP]

 

A Scooter even a biog one like the bergman is very limited.It cannot Tour the country.
It would have a really hard time on the Interstate when a tractor-trailer blows
past.Plus,it is too exposed.All the elements like rain and road road grim,little
road pebbles would get blown into the large seating area.On a twisty back road the
Scoot would never find the right lean angle because there isn't a lean angle.The
Scooter is not engineered for lean angle the way a Sportbike is.Or even some
cruisers.Then there's the bidness of safety.Take a fall off a scooter and get thrown who
knows where.One can slide a sportbike down on it's side and get protected somewhat
by the side fairing.I say video on YouTube where a guy on a sportbike is seen
lane-splitting on a highway at a great speed.All of a sudden he's down.
The guy behind him had some kind of GoPro video running.
I coulda swore that streetbike guy was dead to rights.He must been goin'
about 90 or better.Nope.As traffic stopped and a few riders got off their bikes
to check it out.That sportbike guy was jogging real quick looking for someone
to help him pull his back off onto the curb.He acted as if he hadn't a scratch.
Just a day in the park,is what. It's on YouTube somewhere.

 

What an absolutely stunning collection of fact-free bloviation!

 

New guy here, 3 motorcycles for me. 2003 SV1000, 2005 BMW R1200ST, 2013 Honda VFR 1200 Interceptor.

Each has its own, very nice personality.

 

I owned a Z28.But it was worlds apart from the original of the late 60's.
My college roommate had an original Z28 he modified.It had the original 302
engine but has a special race rear end.It had the el neato Hurst manual shifter.
I'll never forget it has the ability to do 90 mph in 1st gear.of course that was
in redline.But with that special rear end gearing it could wind out.
The Z came back in the mid-70s'.I think it came out limited production in
1976 and then full production in 1977.Both me and my brother bought oen.
His turned out to be a lemmon.I ended up totaling mine on a really twisty back
road.The engine was Nothing special.Just a common,garden variety 350 c.i.
The car was pretty peppy in 3rd gear.The car handled good however.Just No Muscle
at all.The new Z28 { Which is not street legal,I believe is like $ 78,ooo }.
The New Camaro from a couple years ago the ZL1 is awesome.
Get a Hennessey upgrade conversion and yer good to go.
But that new Z28 is supposed to be something special.
I was tempted to trade my Evo in for a Boss 302 Mustang about 3 years ago.
I never see them Boss mustangs on the road.

 

The 302 is a Ford engine, never available in the Z28. The Z28 did come with a Chevy 305 smallblock option though, which I had in mine, coupled to a 5 speed manual transmission, and 3.73 rear end. It was peppy off the line, and strong through the quarter mile, but lacked top end speed. Could have used another gear. Most V8 Z28's have the venerable 350 you mentioned.

 

No It was a chevy 302 c.i.Smallest version of the 327.With the Holley 4 bbl.
You had me goin' there for a sec.

 

I learn something new every day! I stand corrected; There WAS a Chevy 302. The 305 (which was in mine) was a small version of the 350. Apparently only major difference between the 305 and the 350 was the heads, block was identical. Probably the same for the 302/327. How about that?!

 

I was a full blown Hippie in college when I got to use my roomies '69 Z/28.
I used it to pick up this sweetie pie I was dating,Off Campus.
I was a Redneck as soon as using that Hurst close ratio shifter.I used my
Old mans MGB often in high school and my older brother got my Mom's
SS 396 Supersport for college { Georgetown U. } My Old man and older
brother talked my mom into both cars.The MGB and the SS 396.
She wasn't interested in manual shifting being used to her Big White boat
Chrysler Imperial.My Mom used to Lug the SS Chevy.Put it into 4th gear
while driving around the neighborhood at 30 mph. My older Brother and
Old man did that on purpose.Talked her into sporty cars knowing she would
never get used to them and hand them down like hand-me-down clothes.
Is what. Is all.

 

Didn't happen. A 1967-69 Z/28 wouldn't do 90 in first gear...not without spinning the engine to 9500+RPM!

More bloviation. The Z28 ran from 1967 until 1974. It was re-introduced in mid-1977 and ran to the 80's. It was dropped (in favor of the IROC-Z) for 1988, and returned in 1991. The new Z28 is street-legal.

Do you EVER check the FACTS before spouting pablum?

 

305 & 350 blocks are different. Heads were SOMETIMES different, not always. Crank and rods the same.

302 & 327 were the same block. (302 was a 327 block with a 283 crankshaft.) 327 & 350 are also the same block.

 

OK, I'm home and can tear the idiocy to shreds point by point now.

Pablum. My Burgman is fine on the highway, even in a crosswind. This guy had no problem on a 400:
[video=youtube;t5pHaTlSYIU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5pHaTlSYIU[/video]
...he even qualified for an Iron Butt SS1000 for that trip.

Are you on LSD?! Rider protection on the Burgman (like most maxi scoots) is very good. High windshield (power adjustable on the 650 Executive), full fairing, even deflectors to keep stuff off your legs. I've ridden in the rain...not a problem.

Well, no, it's not a sportbike! A Burg will easily lean WAY over. I know, having done it! (Did a track day a couple weeks ago.) So have these guys:
[video=youtube;vpApQQ4a7QI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpApQQ4a7QI[/video]

Now you're REALLY reaching, dude. Weak, even by your standards.

 

How come you know so much for a guy who probably never drove let alone
Owned a Z/28.
The Z/28 went from 1967-69.
The New Z/28 is a Track car.

 

265-400 are the same block, the 400 has Siamese ports that all, a 265 intake/head/ exhaust manifold will bolt on a 400 and vice versa.

 

the new z28 is road legal.

 

The small-bore 305 can't take many 350 heads. The valves will hit the bore.

 

I have rode and owned all kinds of bikes over the decades. The main thing is that your face is in the wind and the rubber side is down.
reva

 

It wasn't then it was.Just like the price quoted.Some were at $ 65,ooo but the
2014 was set at $ 75,000.
Like with the Kawasaki H2. The H2R is not street legal.
The base price of a Camaro is Under $25,ooo.That makes the New Z/28
Triple the price.
The difference between the more race version { Trans Am circuit approved } 302
engine is 4 bolt vs. 2 bolt block application.The very oversquare 302 can rev higher
due to the short stroke slower piston speed.Meaning the piston of a short stroke
{ 3.oo" } doesn't have to travel as far as a piston of a longer stroke { 4.oo" }
at exactly the same Revs { say 4,ooo rpm}

 

The Z/28 didn't come or become famous with a 305 Engine.
It was a 302 c.i. plant.The 305 cube controversy { 5.0L displacement} came into play
because of Trans Am circuit {SCCA} guidelines as to imposed engine capacity.
Stop with yer infernal Contrarian games.

 

I will give you one trillion dollars if you can point to where I said the Z28 used a 305 engine. And, go to it!

 

In yer wildest dreams you couldn't come up with a *Trillion Half-penny.
yes this country did have a half-cent.
You went into another rant about small-bore 305.
I guess you would know such things as bores.

* how much would that be ?

 

And as usual, more deflection, more word salad. Business as usual from Fool.

Are you baked?

 

Most sbc heads have 1.94 intake valves, the 3.76 bore can handle that no problem. Small block chevys are interchangeable 99% of the time.

 

The amount of yer wildest dream in dollars { converted from pennies to half-cents }
is a tad over $ 5 Billion. or $ 5,000,000,000,083.20

 

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