What's Up! Did Russian Sub Have Fire Fight With US Sub?

Wow...do you honestly believe that BS? Or do you just troll for Russia as a hobby?

 

If something happened and a sub was destroyed I think it's very safe to assume it was a Russian sub that was up to no good and that's the last we will here of this. It's impossible to hide the sinking of a U.S. sub for very long but in Russia it will disappear behind the iron curtain of government controlled media.

 

There are far more than 3 things they might be doing and communications cable carry far more than local data. Still even if it was so limited, I would think NORAD might be interesting to Russia.

 

I can see facts are an inconvenience to you. Reminds me of all the Trumpers around here. They, too, reject reality and substitute their own in order to support their glorious leader. Putin and Trump have quite a bit in common. Sad!

Over four days, the Russian Navy failed to attach four different diving bells and submersibles to the escape hatch. The navy's response was criticised as slow and inept. The government misled and manipulated the public and news media, and refused help from other governments. President Vladimir Putin initially continued his vacation at a seaside resort, and only on the fifth day authorized the navy to accept British and Norwegian offers of assistance. Seven days after the sinking, Norwegian divers finally opened a hatch to the escape trunk in the boat's flooded ninth compartment to find no survivors. The Russian government and navy came under intense criticism over the incident.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk_submarine_disaster​

 

yeah? and when did this happen? Russia media is of all sorts & many are not controlled by the local authorities, for your information. BBC Russia, Radio Liberty, DW Russia etc. - besides, the news on this submarine you got from the Russian media cited by Western sources.

 

i gave you facts, now your in denial. Putin knew there's nothing could be done, and everything he did was for a reason. Brits & USA puppets Norway folks desired to show off, he let them have it, and why not? Russia was in no position to keep them away for long at the moment.

 

Amazing. You just keep rewriting history as you go.

 

From Fort Russ:

“The main cause of the incident has been established – it was a fire in the battery compartment,” the Kremlin website quotes Shoigu.

Shoigu believes that the deep-water apparatus of the Navy can be restored, and the time frame within which this work can be carried out is now being evaluated. At the same time, the nuclear power plant on the underwater vehicle did not suffer, this allows us to hope for “a relatively short time to restore the apparatus.”​

 

That's the best one yet.

 

The jets had to be going somewhere, but why so many on that day? Anyway we will have to wait and see if some respectable sight like Moon of Alabama comes up with something. I do have the greatest respect for DeNoon of Israelinews live's integrity, but not so much for Debkafile. If he has other sources for the news about a fire fight, then it's probably true.

 

If the problems with the submersible didn't come from an outside source, then I suspect sabotage. There is an investigation going on, but the Russian's are secretive so we will never know. If it is sabotage though, the payback will also be secretive.

 

You mean "Russians", not "Russian's".

 

As usual when you get called out as the Russian troll you so clearly are, you distract as directed onto pointless garbage. We even know you are actually male little jeanny.

 

Good question.

Yes, that's right. Spying, sabotage, and sushi. It's all here in my code book.

 

But there is a fourth scenario: The Americans were not involved.

 

Watch your language, mother superior!

 

Stop it, stop it! I can't take the ad hominem attacks.

 

Thanks for the correction.

 

I rest my case.

 

If we were to blame with the Kursk, which I don't believe, and Vladimir Putin had called it out, then Russia would have had to respond and POOF! There goes the world.

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As an example, Putin knew that the CIA were embedded with the terrorists in Chechnya during the wars, and when he confronted Bush with it, Bush responded that we could do whatever we wanted. Yet Putin kept it hidden and didn't disclose it until a few years ago. He also told Bush that one doesn't mess with terrorists. Two weeks later 911 happened - which makes me wonder. Did Putin know about the attacks and decided not to warn Bush? Could be!

 

How could anyone not like you?

 

Maybe Putin was subtly letting Bush Baby know that he knew the CIA was planning the "inside job" and wanted Bush to know that he knew.

 

Dear OP,

You post only rumors and what you think, which is not exactly bad per se, I do alot too, but it's opinion not fact as you always treat it, but your motive is another: to shift blame and deflect.
You always start rumor treads after each incident regarding Russia like MH17, when turkey downed the jet, this one and so on and so on and so on.
You are very predictable, and you fool none. I even asked myself wheres Jenny thread. Oh yeah, here is.

I want to respond only to the fact that Israel will not strike Iran alone. It will never happen without someone else doing the heavy lifting. If US won't go to war, be assured Israel won't.
They don't even share borders, and a amphibious invasion is out of Israel power. They might do air operations which will have little effect in eliminating the regime.
Best they can do is what they are currently doing. Play the victim card and diplomacy.

 

Now that (I am ashamed to admit) is a war I'd like to see, providing the U.S. keep its grubby nose and bloody hands out of it .... fat chance. No more of these proxy wars. Let the war-mongers get their arses kicked.

 

Basically.

This is yet another thread based on rumours from a poster notorious for reproducing propaganda, lies and wild speculation and then insisting they are truth.

There is not yet a shred of evidence for this. Given the choice between a piece of Russian kit malfunctioning/someone screwing up and some unproven assertion about an attack/sabotage/terrorism or whatever this week's excuse is, back the malfunction until proved otherwise. Even the most cursory glace at what we have been allowed to know about Russia's history with complex systems makes some sort of fault or rank incompetence the runaway favourite explanation here.

But hey, some folks need to believe all sorts of fairy stories to convince themselves they have 'special knowledge. Others just push pro-Russian/anti-western propaganda relentlessly.