What's up with Nunes and the rush to inform Trump?

I didn't call you a name. I did say you were misinformed because your information was totally false. Clearly, you misrepresented the truth.

 

What's up with Nunes? He is doing some really strange things. The Republican chairman has cancelled an open hearing into Russia's involvement in the 2016 election. Did Nunes cancel an open Intelligence Committee hearing in an attempt to choke off public info? The hearing involved former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, Director of the CIA John Brennan, and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, all former Obama administration officials. Now the meeting is closed to the public.

Nunes said on 22 March that in the course of reviewing intelligence documents he found that Trump and his campaign team were subject to “incidental” intelligence collection, which “alarmed” him. He came under fire for taking that revelation to Mr Trump before coming to the House Intelligence Committee.

Still, no one knows what he is talking about. “I’m the only one who has seen the documents as far as I know,” Nunes said.

It is at this point that Nunes seemed to get confused. He reiterated that there is no evidence of wiretapping of Trump Tower and that the surveillance of the transition team was legal. He did not explain though why he felt the need to brief the White House before the intelligence committee if he felt the collection was legal.

It “appears as if this was all legal from what I can tell, but until I get the documents i won’t know for sure,” Nunes said.

He has the documents and he said he read them. That's what started this whole mess.

 

Nunes admitted today that he ran to fill Trump in on the investigation (possibly illegally) because Trump was catching political heat.

He needs to resign.

 

Which "he?"

 

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You said I 'misrepresented the truth' that is calling another a liar. I understand that's all you got at this point but it's pretty weak.

 

You said, "Right...that's it...disagree then call names..." I didn't call you a name. You misrepresented the truth. It's pretty simple, really.

 

As I said in another thread, the SUSPICION is, the Obama admin wanted to spy on these foreigners, to spy on the trump team, and then Obama's people unmasked some of his team, so it could be spread, and then leaked. Was this the intent? No evidence, but that would take an investigation. All we know is that someone leaked it. While Obama was still in office. Meanwhile the dems are suspicious trump's team colluded with Russia on leaked hacks, who intel said was Russia, yet no evidence for that has been shown. In fact Clapper said he had seen no such evidence.

So mucho conjecture from both sides. With many equating suspicion with facts. Sandy Skanks is one of the worst offenders. ha ha ha And daily. Makes one suspicious the guy is paid to do this. haha

 

I heard it said that the White House leaked this to make Trump look less like of a jerk when the repeal of The ACA bombed...but it backfired big time. That being said, the investigation is an oncoming train that no amount of diversions is going to stop. Past the point of no return.

 

This is getting surreal. Today we learned something new, and it is quite incomprehensible. Please recall that Nunes got something -- we don't know what yet, neither do members of his committee -- from a nameless source and he rushed it over to the White House to warn the President who is the subject of his committee's investigation. He stopped along the way to tell reporters the information -- whatever it is -- has nothing to do with the Russians.

Now that is weird enough. It just got weirder.

Today we learned the day before Nunes revealed that conversations by Trump transition officials may have been inadvertently picked up by U.S. surveillance, he met with the source of the information at the White House. If you need to read that over again, I would understand. Nunes went to the White House because there was a facility there for reviewing classified information, said Jack Langer, a spokesman for Nunes, who has refused to divulge the identity of his source.

Handling classified information in the halls of Congress is a routine matter. Are we to believe there are no facilities in the capitol capable of handling classified information? To be frank, that is ludicrous. It is difficult to understand how a member of Congress would so foolish as to try to pawn off such an absurd statement onto the public.

Nunes still has not revealed to anyone what he has in his possession. Questions abound that he has nothing. He has apologized to his committee members and all but admitted his actions were wrongheaded. Nunes has conceded that he did not know "for sure" that any Trump aides had actually been subject to surveillance, just that their names had appeared in intelligence reports. Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer has taken the extraordinary step of asking a member of the House, Nunes, to step aside.

Nunes was a senior member of Trump's transition team. It is becoming quite clear that his inept attempt to help the President has only made things worse for the White House. The sequence of events could buttress claims that the episode last week was a White House ploy to shift attention away from the FBI investigation.

Why would he have had to go to the White House unless his source worked there? At this point Nunes had to admit the information comprised executive branch documents that have not been provided to Congress.

So, what do we have here? Nunes stumbled onto something still unknown that was provided by someone in the White House, and they were executive branch documents. Although Nunes heads an investigation into the Russian connection, the information has nothing to do with Russia, he says. Again, no one else knows what he is talking about. The unknown source is in the White House. So we know the leak came from the White House, and Nunes felt it necessary to warn the White House about something that came from the White House.

That about sums it up. I told you it was weird.

 

The weirdness continues. The day before the House Intelligence Committee chairman revealed that conversations by Trump transition officials may have been inadvertently picked up by U.S. surveillance, he met with the source of the information at the White House. "Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Tulare), went to the White House because there was a facility there for reviewing classified information," said Jack Langer, a spokesman for Nunes. “Chairman Nunes met with his source at the White House grounds in order to have proximity to a secure location where he could view the information provided by the source,” Langer said.

Now that is quite clear to everyone, right. Nunes went to the White House on Tuesday the day before he went to the White House to warn the White House about what he had learned at the White House.

Clear as mud.

Not so fast. Now it seems there is something of a mystery, the whereabouts of Nunes on the day before his Wednesday announcement. CNN reports, "The California Republican confirmed to CNN in a phone interview Monday he was on the White House grounds that day -- but he said he was not in the White House itself. (Other buildings, including the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, are on the same grounds.)"

So, despite earlier reports from his office that he went to the White House, now, maybe, he didn't go to the White House. Perhaps, his office lost track of him, which does not speak well of the Congressman.

There is still another issue. Who signed him in, or, more precisely, who did he see? Well, we don't know that, either.

Members of Congress, like the general public, must be cleared and escorted into facilities on White House grounds.
"Every non-White House staffer must be cleared in by a current White House staffer," an official said. "So it's just not possible that the White House was unaware or uninvolved."

However, if we are to believe the White House, they were both unaware and uninvolved. CNN, continued, "Nunes went to the building because he needed a secure area to view the information, he told CNN. He said he didn't believe the President nor any of his West Wing team were aware he was there, and the White House said Monday it learned of Nunes' visit through media reports and directed any questions to the congressman."

There are only two possibilities. Either there was a remarkable breach of White House security or the White House is lying.

In view of events, Trump's press secretary, Sean Spicer, had an almost comical response. "I did not sit in on that briefing," Spicer said. "I'm not -- it just doesn't -- so I don't know why he would brief the speaker and then come down here to brief us on something that we would have briefed him on. It doesn't really seem to make a ton of sense. So I'm not aware of it, but it doesn't really pass the smell test."

On Wednesday we know Nunes wanted to warn the President. Is the President now throwing Nunes under the bus?

With all this cloak and dagger stuff, no one is talking about the main issue. Did Trump and/or members of his campaign staff coordinate the demise of the Clinton campaign with the Russians?

 

I think so. There are serious questions about his intelligence along with his ethics.

 

Let's keep this in mind. As you pointed out out, the overriding issue is, did Trump's campaign staff coordinate with the Russians during their hacking campaign designed to derail the Clinton campaign. There is one strong indication of their guilt. The White House is not the least bit concerned that the Russians interfered in our election.

 

As you know, because you follow my writing, there is far more than mere suspicion. There is solid circumstantial evidence, and I have presented it on a variety of threads. That said, Trump's fawning fans deny all evidence, claiming it simply doesn't exist. That is their only defense, deny reality. Foolishly, the only evidence they would accept is a signed confession from Trump.

Well,,, that isn't going to happen. So, they fold their arms in smug "victory." But that "victory" comes with a price. They are forced to look foolish by denying reality.

 

Nunes also divulged the fact that he approached Paul Ryan with his plan to go to The White House and then had to clean it up the next day because that information will implicate Ryan (POS that he is) in being complicate in screwing up the investigation. This is The Keystone Cops go to Washington.

 

Now, let's just give Nunes a little slack, shall we...

He probably just acted so stupidly because he was light-headed. After all, Nunes' nose is so far up trump' @ss that he can barely breathe.

 

Democrats have become a danger to this country . 1Nunes got proof and took the info to the President of the United States of America. Where else would one take such info. Don't tell me someone is outraged !

 

I agree, and Nunes isn't doing this on his own. This is being orchestrated by the White House, meaning Trump. He'll do anything to keep the FBI investigation off the front page. He's making it worse. We all know who is behind this charade. The leaker is in the White House, for chrissakes.

 

You are right, of course. We should cut Nunes some slack because he is doing Trump's bidding.

 

You haven't been following along. The "proof" came from the President of the United States of America.

 

Proof is proof.

 

Nunes needs to be removed immediately from the committee.

Even if he is demoted from the chairmanship, he can no longer be trusted.

He needs to be removed from the committee.

The Senate may have to take over the investigation if Nunes won't step down.

 

I thought the president was supposed to be apprised of these things.

 

Be patient. Nunes just got the straight dope from a whistle blower, and from what I heard it's loads of data. Something like 47 hard drives, and a boatload of documents. Send a tweet to Wikileaks to see if you can get it early.

 

If the only news you get on this subject is from this forum and you ignore half of it -- the half that makes Trump look guilty -- then you are going to remain sadly uninformed. The "proof" was a leak from the White House and, as it turns out, we still don't know what the proof is. Incredibly, Nunes hasn't even told members of his committee what the documents contain.

First, Nunes cancelled an open hearing that would have included fired ass't A.G. Sally Yates. Then the secret hearing involving Director Comey and Admiral Rogers that was to be held today was cancelled.

In the meantime, no one knows what is in the documents except Nunes and he isn't telling anybody and he isn't allowing any hearings on the subject.

One would have to be pretty dense not to be suspicious of these Machiavellian activities. All this leads to the conclusion that there is something very damning to the President in those documents.

One thing is for sure. Whatever his motivation, which would include a vain attempt to protect the President, Nunes has made a complete mess of it. When a Senator from his own party (Graham) is calling for Nunes to step down, you know it is bad.

Hint: Although the leak came from the White House, the leaker is not a friend of the President.

 

Acting attorney general Sally Yates played a key role in the investigation surrounding Mike Flynn, a Trump campaign aide who became national security adviser before revelations that he had discussed sanctions with the Russian ambassador to the United States in late December led to his ouster. Yates and another witness at the planned hearing, former CIA director John Brennan, had made clear to government officials by Thursday that their testimony to the committee probably would contradict some statements that White House officials had made.

On Friday, when Yates’s lawyer sent a letter to the White House indicating that she still wanted to testify, the hearing was canceled by Nunes.

White House spokesman Sean Spicer denied that the White House sought to hinder Yates’s testimony. “I hope she testifies, I look forward to it,’’ he said. “To suggest in any way, shape or form that we stood in the way of that is 100 percent false.’’

“I hope she testifies, I look forward to it.’’ Easy to say, when you know she won't because the chairman of the committee is in your pocket, and he cancelled the hearing.

Once again, we have to ask ourselves a question. First, Nunes on Tuesday quietly slips of over to the White House to see an informant. He says he went there to view classified documents, as if Congress has no such facility, which of course it does have. Then he returns to the White House on Wednesday to warn the White House of information received from the White House. He cancelled an open hearing on the issue. Then a closed hearing on the issue involving the FBI directory and NSA director is cancelled. All meetings of the House Intelligent Committee this week have been canceled. No one knows the contents of the documents Nunes supposedly has in his possession, not even members of his committee.

Now here is my question. Is there any intelligent person out there who thinks Nunes is doing all this on his own? That the White House is not involved in the hush treatment and cancellations?

If such an individual exists, please let me know. There is a bridge I'd like to sell you.