I ask this because I used to be "Pro-Choice". I had an epiphany when my wife became pregnant and I saw my child in ultrasound. That was my little girl and I loved her with all of my heart. When did you first love your children?
So you admit that your position on this issue is entirely based on personal emotion? Do you apply the same principle to other political issues involving innocent young children such as immigration, welfare or healthcare?
Aww, that's so touching and emotional....is Hallmark going to make a nice gooey emotion manipulating movie out of it?? Now, if there was some connection to legal medical procedures it might make sense to have it in the abortion forum but doesn't so far....
No. I didn't say it was purely emotions. If that were the case, I wouldn't care about a stranger's child any more than pro-choicers do. Try reading my post to see what I say in the future.
You did what I did, you personified. I loved my potential child from the day I was told I was pregnant. But I am smart enough to know that I was strictly fantasizing what will be if I chose. What you are telling us that because you saw a potential child and your wife’s ultrasound that no woman should be entitled to terminate a pregnancy. You realize that most abortions are done before you can even see the fetus on an ultra sound
My little girl wasn't a potential child any more than a child is a potential adult. My love wasn't a fantasy. If your love is, then I really do feel sorry for you, because real love is wonderful. And no. What you claim I said is not what I said. I said what was in my post. You can read what I said.
Men suffer through miscarriages too, a fact many people may not realize. Of course it's not quite the same, but there can still be grief and bereavement.
I had a similar experience but it wasn’t emotion driven once we had our daughter and now son. It was that I was misinformed and uneducated on the subject and used to think it’s the woman’s body to do with whatever she chooses. I actually still have this belief and a woman can do whatever she wants with “her” body, but add an independent life form and it’s no longer a choice.
In contrast, a young lady finds out she is pregnant and has to choose between an abortion and being disowned by her religious parents. While she would love the child as much as you love yours, her circumstance doesn't allow it. I know you don't have kids and cannot relate to his experience. He is simply describing the reasoning behind his position. He actually touched on the main factor in the abortion debate. Wanted vs Unwanted.
No. She wouldn't love her child as much as I love mine, or she's wouldn't kill her child. Think of the people in the planet with bad circumstances. Now imagine if they all decided it was ok to kill another human being because of those circumstances.
so from the time you and your wife decided to have the baby... people should not be forced to have unwanted babies do you support forcing rape victims to have their rapists babies? you had a choice, glad you made it, that was your choice, do you really think the government should of taken that choice away from you and made it you you?
a women forced to have her rapists child could suffer PTSD from a second abuse as bad as being raped all over again to some, with a constant reminder of the rape
it was a potential child up until the point you decided you wanted to have the child, you made that choice
I still do NOT see the correlation between loving one's child (which he seems to think is a contest where only he wins) and trying to destroy someone else's rights.
that said, I think some lie about being pro-choice, then turning pro-life ---- bearing false witness is a sin
We can argue the embryo/fetus/child/human/zygote definition for a thousand years. The one and only factor is the pregnant mother wanting or not wanting the pregnancy. What you want is irrelevant in her case. Even the best of intentions should never be allowed to replace liberty.
She probably already has PTSD. After what happened to her, I doubt pregnancy is going to make that PTSD all that much more worse. She'll have to go to counselling to be able to develop a distinction between the traumatic event that happened to her and the innocent life—her child—growing inside of her. Did you know over half the women who get pregnant through rape choose to keep the pregnancy? Apparently they are able to draw a distinction between the two. These children were all dearly loved by their mothers, despite the circumstances surrounding their conception: http://www.preciouslife.com/news/44...why-every-human-life-is-worthy-of-protection/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinio...ny-of-the-ugliness-surrounding-her-conception http://afterabortion.org/2017/i-am-not-raising-a-rapists-baby-im-raising-my-baby/
there is no reason ever to be so cruel as to force a rape victim to have her rapists baby it should always be their choice I have never heard a person say rape is ok cause without it I would never of been born
YOU doubt pregnancy is going to make that PTSD all that much worse"? And you base that on what? Your years of research in psychiatry and psychology? Scientific peer reviewed studies that that prove that ? NO, again you make the ridiculous silly claim that pregnancy doesn't affect women in any way...with AS USUAL NO PROOF WHATSOVER.... "have" to go ? MY how you seem to LIKE forcing women to do things....that sure rings a bell in a discussion on RAPE. Brainwashed to your way of thinking? And you base that on what? Your years of research in psychiatry and psychology? Scientific peer reviewed studies that that prove that ? SO WHAT ? Gee, how many ANTI-WOMAN'S RIGHTS SITES CAN YOU COLLECT ? More sites that advocate FORCING women to do something just like rapists enjoy FORCING women to do things , taking away women's right to their own choice and their own bodies.
It’s a horrible thing to have happen to someone, and completely inexcusable. With that said, can the child completely dismiss it as well? I mean they literally would not have been born without the rape, so something good came out of a heinous act.
