When does AOCs seat go back up for election?

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  1. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Cheated? How?

    Bernie never had a prayer at the Nom.
    Even in 2016.

    AOC has a long way to go.
     
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    Everyone running who endorsed Biden gave him more delegates. Bernie quickly lost the support of his own party and that affected the outcome.
     
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    The Fed doesn't have the tools to control unemployment.
    The Fed Chair, Jerome Powell, has come out several times and said Congress should increase spending.
    I wonder if you have any idea how dumb your idea is.
    Yeah, sure--I taught in public schools for more than three decades...
    So, unemployed people will only spend on necessities when they get a job? :roll: :roll:
    It's going to be a struggle to get greenhouse gases under control in the next few decades. We might be better off putting our money into a new generation of nuclear reactors to generate power and leave some of the buildings as is.
    Has it crossed your mind it might be smart to use fossil fuels in some places?
    You consistently confuse productive capacity with money.
     
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    The ownership distinction is whether or not you can trade/sell your shares.
     
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    Bernie is an independent, not a democrat.
     
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    And did not perform in the primaries. The only reasons the DNC exists is to compile the party platform, support democrats in elections, and -- this is the relevant one -- choose a candfidate they think will win. Even if Bernie had won the primaries (he didn't), they would be well within their purview and cause for being to nominate someone else.
     
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    Correct; but both Ellen Brown who is promoting public banking, and MMT which promotes direct money creation in central banks being part of a 'consolidated government sector' say the the Fed SHOULD have the tools and the authority to do so.

    The starting point for the Fed needs to be FULL employment. Full stop. A diametrically different role to private sector banks.

    But he has never said by how much it should be increased.

    You still aren't understanding the difference between a BUFFER employment pool job, to maintain real full employment regardless of the business cycle (and other factors), and regular public service jobs like the one you had for 3 decades.

    The point is the proportion of people in the buffer pool will always be small in comparison to the employed work force (the BER of NAIBER). Hence the productivity of the nation will provide for the extra demands of universal above poverty participation in the economy.

    The important point is the problems are technical not economic. eg, can you comment on the BIS statement that central banks might have to buy the coal industry? We can start building pumped hydro storage IMMEDIATELY (it's age old technology) and close down coal plants IMMEDIATELY on a gigawatt for gigawatt basis. But stupid economists object with nonsense about "opportunity cost", and vested interests want to maintain access to outsized profits in the fossil fuel industry. And as for the loss of jobs issue, again government with unlimited currency issuing capacity can ensure transference of the workforce to other productive employment either directly in the new green economy, or in increased permanent public sector employment.

    No. How long does it take to build new generation nuclear power stations? That's the time that fossil fuels might be required, in a very few places.

    Now that's funny: that's exactly what orthodox economists do.

    OTOH, it's theoretically possible, given access to sufficient data on available resources and all citizens' capabilities, to run a productive economy without recourse to money at all, eg, with the ultimate fully planned, AI assisted economy. Maybe sometime in the future when we have more interesting and challenging matters to deal with, than money. Like creating/ managing resources required to travel from Mars to the nearest planet outside our solar system.
     
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    Didn't Bernie win the first 5 or so races? Then the black vote wiped him out in favour of Biden. (perhaps a case of the victims of exploitation looking to their exploiters for salvation....).
     
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    Yes, and biden did poorly in the early primaries. Then biden killed it in the later primaries. Bernie got smashed in the later primaries. They all count.
     
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    So why did Bernie do well in the early primaries?

    And did the anti-"socialists" have anything to do with Bernie's poor performance in the later primaries (along with an apparent preference among blacks for Biden).
     
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    I've long said that most conservatives want to be a new type of Feudalist. A lot of them seem to want to be a "Capitalised nobility" like the old Landed nobility but based on Capital. A hereditary class of corporate barons lording it over we poor peasants.
     
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    Because people liked him in those States. I think you are fishing for something sinister that does not exist.
     

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