When does it become a form of mental illness

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  1. OldManOnFire

    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    I'm speaking 'collectively'...
     
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    lol - so tell me how you measure "deserve".

    And, tell me why that wouldn't apply to ALL needs - healthcare, food, etc.

    Then, tell me what you would do with those YOU choose to reject.
     
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    When have offspring of humans and dogs, cows, etc ever happened?
    LGBTQs are all of human making, AFAIK.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because religion has always been used as a tool to achieve political/economic objectives more often than not. The ol' us vs them, god is on our side, we must fight the evil enemy, fear god's wrath, oh and by the way, ya got a few bucks for the collection plate?
     
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  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    What do you call people who just don't seem to understand the whole concept of "mind your own business"? to the extent that they appear to be mentally ill in regard to it? It would be some sort of imbecile, like psych/socio-paths were sometimes called "moral imbeciles" when the disorder was first written about.
     
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  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Watching Trump violates the very concept of innocence itself
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Identifies As A Genderless Alien"

    Spoiled rich kids that don't want to get a job? Want mommy and daddy to support them for life
     
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  8. btthegreat

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    Basically a patient's behavior and statements can be evidence of a mental illness and when a clinician, relying on patterns in behavior in a patient, see sufficient scope, and severity to diagnose mental illness, he or she then writes it down in the medical record.

    You, Fatback, do not have that clinical training, degree or professional skillset to figure this stuff out.
     
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  9. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah because it's really difficult to tell that that freak is mentally ill....
     
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    I don't trust you to make these decisions and label people.
     
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  11. WillReadmore

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    Those are huge assumptions for which I see no evidence.
     
  12. FatBack

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    If you can't look at that person and use the available information in the original post to know that that person is mentally ill then you can't observe things very well at all.

    It does not take a degree in psychology. Do you think that someone that believes they're a cow would be mentally ill for example?

    The person in the op believes that they are a genderless alien. Do you doubt that that fits the definition of mentally ill?

    Do you think that person has a firm grasp on reality
     
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    I don't know what he believes. I know what an article claims he said he believed. that is your problem, you were not in the room and are not able to assess ( using 'assess' in its clinical and medical sense here) why the words came out, and in what context. the fact you can't imagine anything else than the 'obvious' , is about your limitations.
     
  14. FatBack

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    Perhaps you and him are from the same planet we're such things are normal?

    But here on planet Earth it is patently obvious that that person has mental problems.

    I would suggest a good dictionary and looking up mental illness and see if that definition fits that person. I mean if you need someone else's help in trying to understand it
     
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    You could be seeing performance art, bad journalism, or whatever.

    You really don't have any qualifications for diagnosing that individual.

    And, I'm not impressed by your idea of what "normal" seems to mean to you.
     
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  16. FatBack

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    You just wish to be argumentative. For the purposes of the thread let's assume that everything is accurate if you don't believe that that is mental illness then there is no such thing.

    Of course it's just easier to say well he's play acting or something....
     
  17. WillReadmore

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    You're still just expressing arbitrary hate.

    And, no, that is NOT OK.
     
  18. FatBack

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    Oh bull feces.
     
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    Who cares what someone believes? And who are we to decide if what they believe is ok or not? Many people think that belief in a god is mental illness.
    Every soul is on this planet to learn some sort of lesson. Some are in a lesson that requires them to be a murderer. Some are here to learn a lesson that requires them to be a selfless doctor or a saint. Some people’s lessons takes them far outside the norms of society, and some lessons require them to be the ones that define what society is.
    We will all live countless lives in countless bodies and roles. In some we will be the freak, and in others we will be spitting on the freak and persecuting them for being different.
    In the end we will realize that there was never a “we”. There was only a single being the entire time.
     
  20. WillReadmore

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    The gender spectrum of humans in NO WAY affects issues of genus and species.

    Our genus and species includes the range that we witness.

    And, it's also the case that this range exists in other genuses - in some cases far more significantly than in our own.
     
  21. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    So did you go and accuse that left-wing poster who called someone mentally ill of hate?

    There's no need to answer just consider that rhetorical...

    Gender is not a spectrum that's goobly gunk, agenda driven junk "science"
     
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  22. WillReadmore

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    There would be less need for defense if the haters would stop with their attacks, including physical assault.
     
  23. WillReadmore

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    No, the existence of gender spectrum in humans is a closed issue.

    It is rock solid biological science.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Oh bull crap and you still didn't answer my question he called someone mentally ill or do you have double standards?

    There's really no need to answer the answer is self-evident.
     
  25. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Let's not get insane here.
     
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