When Islamic ‘occupation of Europe’ becomes a reality

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh? is this where I respond with "my little intellect is galactic when compared to yours" or some other such nonsense?

    bringing my parents into it? What an assinine, infinitile, ignorant, idiotic, purely puny thing to do. Intellectual integrity, my sweet rosy red rectum. You have shown me you don't even know the meaning of the term.
     
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    Since you are so fond of numbers and %, here are some polls for you to investigate. The "Sharia" section is particularly interesting.

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx#terror
     
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    The best to read is still former muslims, people who are threatened of death because they left their religion.
     
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    I don't care about numbers...I care about the reality in which humans live. FACT is 99.9% of humans want the same things! The ONLY differences in people are rooted in others making judgement of people...in particular certain groups or color of people. My life is living in the melting pots of LA and SF and never during my decades of existence has any group of people tried to exterminate or take over another group of people. People of every walk of life, every color, every gender, every ethnicity, live in harmony. All of your so-called numbers will never change this reality.

    Are there problems around the world...absolutely! Do some people hate others and even wish them dead...absolutely! But in reality never does more than the .01% take aggressive actions towards others...
     
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    The number of Muslims who want sharia law varies by country. In many Muslim nations the majority are against Sharia, it seems that more Muslim nations favor it than do not. See chart in this link but you have to scroll down a bit. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/
     
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    Muslims start leaning on other populations when they are only at the 5% mark.
     
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    This article was written by dumb c##ts for the sole purpose of being read by dumb c##ts and to keep dumb c##ts frightened.

    If you honestly think that Muslims or Islam are going to "take over Europe" then you are at least one of the following:

    1 - Very easy to frighten.

    2 - Rather gullible.

    3 - Quite conformist.

    4 - Probably under 40 years old.

    In real terms, there are less terrorists carrying out less acts of terrorism and killing less people in Europe now than there was during the entire 1970's and 1980's so, with the greatest of respect, strap a pair on and ease up with the project fear rubbish because there is nothing to fear but fear itself.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Then you know nothing of Islam. Islamic doctrine dictates the form of government AND laws to be applied.

    Unfortunately with Islam, it is a literal interpretation by practitioners that leads to problems.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right. I shouldn't have mentioned your parents. My apologies for doing so.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    okay then.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Ive read the Koran and many of the Hadiths. And the terrorists follow a strict, literal interpretation of the Koran and hadiths while it is the apologists for Islam who rely upon the fake and twisted stuff.
     
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    Since it is a literal interpretation of Islamic doctrine that causes this worldwide campaign of Islamic terrorism, Id say it is a problem with Islam.
     
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    Literal interpretation of Christianity caused the same. While I agree that there are more in Islam that are "literalists" than in Christianity, many Muslims are not "Islamists" = hate individual rights and freedoms/liberty and want to force their "literal" strict sharia religious beliefs on others through physical violence (Law).

    So while I agree that the problem is religion in general (Islam), the main problem are the Islamists.
     
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    Your dictator is Mohammad Reza Pahlavi who served as the Shah of Iran from 1941 until 1979. He replaced his father who served as the Shah of Iran from 1925 until 1941, when the Russians and British insisted that he abdicate his throne to his son. Soooo I cant imagine what this nonsense is about the US deciding to "replace with a fascist dictatorship" in the 50s.
    And I assume you are referring to dismissing Mosaddegh as the "rather progressive government in the 50's". The shah did that by decree and it was Mosaddegh who dissolved the democratically elected Parliament and assumed dictatorial powers as the Prime Minister.
     
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    Cant even imagine what you are even speaking of. When did Christianity cause a worldwide campaign of terrorism?
     
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    Back in the middle ages but this is not the point. The vast majority of Christianity does not think we should bring back stoning women for adultery. A whole lot of Islam does.... but not all.

    The reason it is important to distinguish between a "Islamist" and "Islam", other than the generalization logical fallacy, is because when you just say "Islam" this is relatively meaningless. Using the term "Islamist" means something specific and therefore it encourages discussion of a specific and important idea.

    It begs the question "What is the difference between a Muslim and a Muslim who is an Islamist". An Islamist is a person who has no respect for individual rights and freedoms. An Islamist wants to force their religious beliefs on others through physical violence (Law) and Holy Jihad if that is what it takes.

    An Islamist is a piece of human garbage.

    It is important to distinguish "the why". Many Islamist's do not realize that they are pieces of human garbage. When you state "the why" the conclusion is inescapable. Calling someone a believer in Islam does not do this.
     
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    That would be Catholic doctrine that finds no support in the Christian bible. They made the **** up. The people couldn't read bibles only written in Latin so Christian doctrine was whatever the catholic church decided was doctrine, frequently in contradiction with the doctrine of the bible. The printing press, the widespread translation and publication of the bible, the spread of literacy and the Protestant reformation was able to use the text of the bible to demonstrate the illegitimacy of the divine rule of the Catholic church

    That's because the bible says

    Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”
    6 They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. 7 They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” 8 Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust.
    9 When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman. 10 Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?”
    11 “No, Lord,” she said.
    And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more......”

    "For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ...Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother's way."

    Anyone who believes adulteress should be stoned is not following Christian doctrine and is acting in direct contradiction to the doctrine
     
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    Islamist is a misnomer in that it implies something different than a follower of Islam. The Islamic Caliphates, applying Islamic doctrine as law, from 632 until the 1920s and again for the last few years, is THE RULE under Islam, its 90 year absence was the exception.
     
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    And this is the minority who does so ... but making enough noise with their terror acts to make all Muslims guilty and being bad.
     
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    No it doesn't ? It implies one who is the most ardent of followers and in the most literal sense.
     
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    The Christian Bible can be used to justify almost anything. I agree that the Catholic Church was about as "anti-Christ" as one could possibly imagine but that is another story.

    Funny that you speak about the "Protestant Reformation" as Luther was a torrid anti semite.

    I agree with you but that does not stop most Christians from violating the "Golden Rule". The passage you are referring to is a restatement of that rule.

    Fundamentalist Evangelicals and Pentecostals still accept OT Law (or parts they agree with which is hypocrisy). It is OT law that is the root of Sharia.
     
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    Who has said anything about all muslims? That's occurring in your own mind whenever anyone dare criticizes written Islamic doctrine, YOU interpret it as criticism of all Muslims.
     
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    A tortured and twisted interpretation of the bible can be used to justify almost anything. A literal interpretation cannot.
     
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    A literal interpretation is used to justify stoning of adulterers, Holy War, crimes against humanity/genocide, xenophobia, homophobia and so on.

    Perhaps you have not read the book ?
     
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    What a beautiful example of tortured and twisted interpretation of Christian doctrine.

    the bible says

    Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”
    6 They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. 7 They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” 8 Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust.
    9 When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman. 10 Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?”
    11 “No, Lord,” she said.
    And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more......”

    "For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ...Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother's way."

    This you think justifies stoning adulterers when it does precisely the opposite. Anyone who believes adulteress should be stoned is not following Christian doctrine and is acting in direct contradiction to the doctrine. Using a tortured and twisted interpretation.
     

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