Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by MGB ROADSTER, Sep 13, 2017.
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Its forbidden to kill innocents.. women, children and the elderly.. or any non-combatants. Its also forbidden to destroy crops, trees, livestock or water sources. You might understand the rules of defensive war if you looked instead of assuming.
But here is a core problem! Teachings from the Koran...
I will give you with one of the Koran Sure (dependent to the gospels in Christian bible) a good example ... Sure 2 - 109 ... how Muslims have to handle Christians and Jews:
Version number 1:
Many of the owners of the book would like to make you again wrong believers (Note: Wrong Believer not Unbeliever!), after you have believed, from envy in their souls, after the truth has been made clear to them. But forgive and be lenient until Allah makes His decision. Verily, Allah has power over all things.
Version number 2:
People from the "People of Scripture" will try to dissuade Muslims from the right faith. That is why Muslims are to avoid them, but forgive them.
Version number 3
Many of the people of Scripture, once you have accepted faith, want to make you again an unbeliever (Note: Now Unbeliever!), from disgrace of themselves, after the truth is clarified to them. But forgive and be lenient until Allah comes with His orders! Allah has power over all things.
Version number 4:
And many among the members of the Written One would reject you, according to your conviction, to distraction, since they feel envy in their souls, after the truth has become clear to them. Then submit and be lenient until Allah comes with His commands. Truly, Allah is power over every thing.
Again, all 4 versons (and there are much more as these 4) are for one and the same Sure of the Koran! So how and which correct teaching from Koran is now given! And here I chose a simple example!
BTW - I am NOT saying all Muslims are insane...I assume they are just as sane as anyone on average. I am saying that ANYONE who murderer's an innocent human being must be mentally disturbed/insane, IMO. No matter what their religion.
(just in case my above statement was not clear on this)
Oh I have no illusions as to what bigoted hate speech is.
I agree that ALL bigots can be and should be criticized for their ideas and actions when warranted.
You are wrong to stereotype...
I think Radical Nationalists will rise as fast, if not faster than them.
I do agree though that I think it will end poorly.
And ALL Muslims believe in a terrorist - as Mohammad boasted "I have been made victorious through terror".
It's not that they haven' tried that (occupying Europe) before.
No fair. Capitalist said it first. Talk about plagiarism, then again, your IQ?
High enough to know all religious fanatics are crazy regardless of faith or denomination.
Things that cause suffering are never "glorious".
I agree. I wasn't being serious.
Ahhh! You deflated me. Can you blow me back up?
The desire for catharsis gets pretty strong at times. I have occasionally made similar statements in frustration.
So .. Most ( Non Muslims and Arabs ) here believe and understand that Europe is under Islam's occupation..
Does that mean it is untrue? You can prove me wrong by refuting the argument, not responding like a Liberal snowflake..
Is it your understanding that Muslims are assimilating well into their host societies?
We can do both. We see what happens to women within Islam, Gays, children, or those Muslims taught to hate, or those trying to leave Islam. Their religion effects their lives disproportionately to being a free human being.
Sure. But any debate should be based on its merits, pro or con, and not blanketed as "hate speech" or "bigotry". That only demonstrates limited cognitive skills. That's likely your fallback argument when you can't come up with anything else, right?
Are Muslims in a 'defensive war'?
Read "The Strange Death of Europe - Immigration, Identity, Islam" - Murray - 2017, "The Last Days of Europe - Epitaph for an Old Continent" - Laqueur - 2007, and "America Alone" - Mark Steyn - 2008. It's simple arithmetic - just a matter of time.
And then blabber the "there's nothing to worry about" BS as much as you so desire.
What you are hearing is the same BS that European politicians are spewing. Meanwhile the people living in the neighborhoods are seeing first hand what is going on and what happens to those who criticize Islam. For example in rural UK today 15% think that homosexuality is wrongful conduct. In London (normally urban cosmopolitan areas are very liberal and tolerant) today 30% think that homosexuality is wrongful conduct. Why is that - its the Muslim population in London.
In fact Sadiq Khan, London's first Muslim mayor, had described moderate Muslim groups as "Uncle Toms". https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8101/radical-moderate-islam
Europe has been at war with Islam for a couple of decades but many either don't know it, are in severe denial, or hope it will all go away as suddenly as it arrived. Some Europeans are mobilizing into groups akin to vigilante squads to do something about it but so far the politicians are unsure what to do and the media, as a result of threats and Charlie Hebdo, are reluctant to do much honest reporting of the changes taking place.
All the modern weaponry in the world can't defeat demographics and a greater will to win.
Both Steyn and Murray are great and courageous men.
This really isn't as much a religious issue as it is a race issue. Whether it's Muslims in the U.K, Asians in Australia, or blacks and Hispanics in north America, non-white people are flooding into white countries and communities with the goal of displacing white people and claiming their economic and political systems for themselves. Central to the process is a campaign of white genocide- the shaming and humiliating of white men and the promotion of interracial relationships to white women in the media.
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