When should abortion be a crime? after conception? after you can detect a heartbeat? when it can survive without artificial mechanical help to breath? never? what say you?
After being an Uncle for 5 years to a beautiful little girl, my views on abortion have changed. I now believe once a child can live outside the womb without machines to keep it alive, abortion should be a low level felony....UNLESS if the abortion is necessary to save the live of the mother.
I'm thinking somewhere between 11 to 16 weeks. But I wouldn't be opposed to a lower gestational age for women who've gotten loads of abortions.
If the child has some sort of extreme abnormality, we could bump the permissible age up a few weeks. Something is going to have to be really really wrong if it's after 23 or 24 weeks. Missing an arm or leg isn't good enough.
I have never heard of a healthy woman and healthy fetus aborting at the end of her pregnancy...and I volunteered at a clinic
Good, then my proposal wouldn't affect most abortions, would it? Why do pro-choicers seems to be fighting tooth and nail for elective abortions after 11 weeks?
At 24 weeks (generally regarded as the "viability point") the baby weights 21 ounces. And a 1/2 ounce fetus sometimes has already begun sucking its thumb. You can't always judge a human being by their size.
For anyone who thinks survival without artificial means should be the cut-off point, you might have a look that this old thread: "the lungs haven't fully developed yet so it's okay to kill" It just makes absolutely no sense. Patients on life support often can't survive without artificial means either. But the condition is temporary. A baby born on a deserted island to a shipwrecked female survivor can't survive without its mother's milk. Obviously we don't call it a fetus. (And no, you can't make a baby formula out of coconut milk, it would cause diarrhea and the baby would eventually die from electrolyte loss, in case anyone was wondering, not to mention it doesn't have enough protein, I did some research into it)
I don't know if it's a felony but abortions are illegal after 23 weeks(viability)....didn't you know that?
WTF!? If a fetus has extreme abnormalities the sooner it's aborted the better. Says you LOL! Good thing YOU don't get to make that decision, the pregnant woman has ALL the power.
Because some women don't know they're even pregnant then. AND the fetus cannot survive outside the woman until 23 weeks.
Of course there are other possible outcomes Maybe a highly handicapped child, or an unwanted child born to parents who will make its life more or less miserable. I think that if a parent really wants an abortion, there is probably a good reason that would make me think that i would not feel great about over riding that decision. Would you blindly take that responsibility?
And you think that entitles them to get an abortion? Some women don't even figure out they're pregnant until 26 weeks. (Don't ask me how)
Well, it depends on their REASON, doesn't it? What responsibility are you talking about? Being pregnant? You do know there's plenty of adoptive parents out there waiting to adopt healthy normal white babies. Heck, they were even bringing in babies from Guatemala so I guess there must have really been an acute shortage. The woman doesn't have to keep the baby. There is adoption. The woman can give the gift of life and not choose death.
NO, that doesn't entitle them to an abortion, they can legally have one....it is NOT an "entitlement".... Of course I wouldn't ask YOU how, you are NOT an authority …..besides you'd need an episode of Star Trek to figure it out
NO, for the ten thousandth time , to get an abortion all a woman needs is to want one. She does NOT need your, nor anyone else's , approval of her reason. Is that what bugs you? That women have that power and YOU don't ?
Unless she waits too long to make her decision. We're in agreement about that, aren't we? (Unless you live in New York or Massachusetts now)
In other words you believe it's ok to abort at 24 weeks just because the fetus is missing an arm or a leg. Many children are born missing an arm or leg, and go on to live happy lives. Let me guess, if the fetus was at 36 weeks and had Down Syndrome you'd support abortion.
I was responding to : kazenatsu said: ↑ Well, it depends on their REASON, doesn't it?"""""""""" I didn't see you state a gestation time in that post..... FoxHastings said: ↑ NO, for the ten thousandth time , to get an abortion all a woman needs is to want one.""" Still stands.
