Where could the Jews have gone?

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  1. MuzzleBreak

    MuzzleBreak New Member

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    Seems weird, but Hitler wanted the Jews out, and the Zionists wanted a bigger population of Jews in Palestine--so they worked out a way to do it, at least for a while.
     
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    He wanted the Jews gone, not nessicarily out. And he was happy if they just left, as long as they left all their wealth behind.
     
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    Ditto this ,many fled to China & Even Imperial Japan ...
     
  4. MuzzleBreak

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    Actually, this agreement let them move their money in a series of transfers. Approximately 140 million Marks ($40 million at that time) was transferred from Germany to the Jews in Palestine before 1939.
     
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    Got proof? And over what time period?

    You see, the biggest issue is what happened not "before 1939", but between 1933 and 1945.

    For example, in 1938 (Kristallnacht), all Jews were forced to pay 20% of their wealth in "fines" to pay for the damages done in the riots. Earlier that year, the "Organization of Jewish Wealth" required all jews to register all Jewish assets. And in 1939, the "Decree on Aryanization" mandated the seizure of all remaining Jewish owned businesses.

    In other words, if it was not out by 1939, it was not getting out. In fact, it was no longer theirs, it belonged to the state.

    And excuse me, but $40 million from an entire nation is nothing. This only shows how little was able to actually be exported.
     
  6. MuzzleBreak

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    A link with many references/sources is provided above. $40 million of 1937 dollars would be a billion or more in today's equivalent. Not huge for 60,000 people, but a whole lot more than nothing. In today's money, it would be about $20K each, if my math is correct.(average wage earner in 1937 made $890/yr according to Soc. Sec. records)
     
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    The "Institute for Historical Review"? Come now, how about something independent? A quick browse through their website is fill of "Zionist" conspiracies and "New World Order" type nonsense.
     
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    Well, it's not the kind of info that the Jewish-owned MSM would choose to put out, is it? The sources are what counts.
    If you fail to recognize the historical existence and significance of these conspiracies, then you better get to using the internet to facilitate your education---while you still can. It doesn't take much looking to figure out who controls/owns the press, Hollywood and MSM, and then you can start branching out from there--to Foundations, State Depts, and of course, all central banks. If you choose to believe only what you've been taught by the Public Education system and TV, then you won't be interested in finding truths they've intentionally hidden from you. If you wish to find the hidden things, then read or listen to those teachers/writers that the TV and MSM attempt to villify or marginalize.
     
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    And now, San Francisco wants to outlaw circumcision and President Obama supports Hamas. Some things change, some things don't.
     
  10. Mushroom

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    Who says it has to be mainstream media? You would think there would be a ton of sources from the academic community, or from various government sources.

    When somebody goes "Every source is wrong except mine", then you know you have to take everything said with a grain of salt. The size of the state of Texas.
     
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  12. MuzzleBreak

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    Not if the academic community and MSM don't want you to know, right?
    If you want less vilified sources, try "The Transfer Agreement" by Edmund Black. You can get it on Amazon. It won the Carl Sandburg award for best non-fiction in 1982. Black has been nominated for the Pulitzer Prize many times..
     
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    Ohhh, it's a conspiracy! And everybody else in the entire world is in on it!

    Thank you. This will now go into the file I keep for really important things. Like Area 51, Grassy Knoll, Birther Truth, the suppression of Cold Fusion, Cars that run on water, and Flouridated Water.

    Thank you, it is so very clear to me now. The entire world has ganged up against you, and they all are trying to distort the truth.
     
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    Obama doesn't support HAMAS.. No one does except Iran and Syria.
     
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    Why did nobody want to take them in? Do you have an opinion?
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_United_States#Refugees_from_Nazi_Germany

    In the years before and during World War II the United States Congress, the Roosevelt Administration, and public opinion expressed concern about the fate of Jews in Europe but consistently refused to permit large-scale immigration of Jewish refugees.

    In a report issued by the State Department, Undersecretary of State Stuart Eizenstat noted that the United States accepted only 21,000 refugees from Europe and did not significantly raise or even fill its restrictive quotas, accepting far fewer Jews per capita than many of the neutral European countries and fewer in absolute terms than Switzerland.

    According to David Wyman, "The United States and its Allies were willing to attempt almost nothing to save the Jews."[42]

    U.S. opposition to immigration in general in the late 1930s was motivated by the grave economic pressures, the high unemployment rate, and social frustration and disillusionment. The U.S. refusal to support specifically Jewish immigration, however, stemmed from something else, namely antisemitism, which had increased in the late 1930s and continued to rise in the 1940s. It was an important ingredient in America's negative response to Jewish refugees.[43]

    About 100,000 German Jews did arrive in the 1930s, escaping Hitler’s persecution.
     
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    One of the biggest problems is that most were attempting to emmigrate with little to no money. And at that time there was a global economic depression going on. Legal emmigration in most areas of the world drastically slowed down or stopped during that time.

    When a nation like the US has almost 25% unemployment, it should be no wonder that they did not want a bunch more emmigrants with little money.
     
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    It was the same everywhere, though the UK did allow the kindertransport, which brought in many of our best citizens as children from Germany. It is not an excuse though: back in the Civil War days the cotton-workers in Manchester marched for Abolition and against British support for the Confederacy, though it would throw many of them out of work, because they were people of principle. The worst thing about the 'thirties meanness is that the western governments kept playing games with Hitler long after they knew what was going on, and finally (after the war) decided to dump the surviving displaced persons on the Palestinians (though the British just walked out) to cover their own racism. If the zionists ever showed any sort of understanding of what they did to the native people, the descendants of the Old Testament Jews, their colonialism might even seem understandable. Unfortunately, the only lesson they learned was to imitate their persecuor.
     
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    Remember the old proverb---"you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink".
     
  20. Mushroom

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    Actually, I have used one here on the Internet for a great many years now. It goes:

    You can lead a person to knowledge, but you can't make him think.

    That is why I am constantly harping at people in here to verify and research. The fact that every single piece of research you find says something totally different, logically that states that your information is wrong, not everybody else.
     
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    Your Google-Fu must be flummoxed.
    Hint: type "Haavara agreement" into the little box, and read not only the references you are likely familiar with, but some that give you the willies to think about reading.
     
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    Now why would Jews have trouble with Germany in 1933, oh that is right they were being led by a man who wanted to exterminate them. Yeah
     
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    His plan was to remove them, not exterminate them. Most died due to disease and starvation, as did many non jews throughout the war.
     
  24. Mushroom

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    But most non-Jews were not forcefully crammed into Concentration Camps, where starvation and brutality were the norm.

    And I doubt Starvation was a major cause of death outside of those camps. Malnutrition, yes. But not Starvation. 2 very different things.
     
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    You deny the Shoah? REally?

    Holocaust Deniers are the worst form of hate replacing reality.

    Maybe your Fuhrer can help you see the truth:


     

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