Where could the Jews have gone?

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  1. waltky

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    Granny hear-tells there's a buncha `em...
    :grandma:
    ... in Hollywood...

    ... an' New York...

    ... an' Miami.
     
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    Perhaps the most famous person who helped save Jewish lives from the Holocaust is Sugihara Sempo, the Japanese consul to Kaunas, Lithuania, during 1940. That summer, ignoring Foreign Ministry cables ordering him to desist, Sugihara issued transit visas to about six thousand Jewish refugees from both Poland and Lithuania. The visas allowed the fleeing Jews to take the Trans-Siberian railway to Vladivostok, and to sail from there to the Japan. These refugees were supposedly on their way to Curacao, a Dutch colony in the Caribbean that did not require entry visas, but they were permitted to stay as transit passengers in Kobe for as long as they needed. Those who could find no other third country to accept them were allowed to settle in Hongkew, the Japanese-controlled section of Shanghai, where they spent the duration of the war.

     
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    The general racism of other countries before, during and after the Hitler murders are the only argument for the American-financed racist murder-hole called after the biblical 'Israel', which is why the Nazi filth colonising Palestine are so desperate to revive anti-Semitism. The answer is to go all out, always, to prevent any persecution of the Jewish religion and the civilized Jewish people, and to bring to trial and, if necessary hang, the child-murdering zionist scumbags.
     
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    You should have taken the red pill, not the blue one.
     
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    Or gone to one of your racist gas-chambers, doubtless, or get tortured and murdered if I couldn't wait. Sorry - not a Palestinian, Altkampfer..
     
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    No worries, The men in the white coats are coming to help.
     
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    Watch 'em, kid - they'll have you in one of those trucks before you know it! Heil Netemyahoo, and to hell with other races!
     
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    Just hang on buddy.
     
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    Facetiousness grows tedious, old chum! :)
     
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    Read about the Haavara agreement Hitler had signed with the Zionists. At least a major part of the German Jews eigrated to Palestine under the agreement taking with them all of their assts (link below). In another threat here a similar question came up (Headline: Discussion with a Holocaust Denier).
    If you look into the official US Jewish Census 2012 the number of Jews in the USA roughly is given to be 5 Millions. Within the text you will find a statement that there is some discussion about the definition of Jew. The estimation error according to those different definitions is given to be 2 Million. That means the population is between 3 Million and 7 Million, depending what the one who made the statistics was using as definition for "Jewish". That is in times of peace in a highly developed country with all kind of electronic data available. But even in this country (as a hypothetical example) someone could have used the highest estimation (7 Million) on Sept. 8th 2001 comparig it to the lowest (both are official estimations from the same reliable source!) on September 10th, 2001. Immediately 4 Million Jews were killed in 9/11. If that example would be real, the answer on the question: "Where are the Jews gone" would be: nowhere. Now take a continent at war, communication in many places impossible or cut, people running to escape the approaching front. How would you estimate the possible "error of estimations (pre and postwar)?. Another possible factor influencing accuracy: From their Eastern territories approximately 11 Million Germans were "ethnically cleansed", 2 - 4 Million died during the trail. Poland who had annexed parts of the German territory and expelled and killed them officially counts those Germans as "Polish civilian losses of WWII". That is another factor having to be kept in mind comparing pre- and post war population staitistics per country: territorial changes, population migration and intentionally falsified statistics (besides the dead of course). Where could the Jews have gone? There are many possible answers (extermination is one possibility).

    http://www.effedieffe.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9185&Itemid=152
     
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    Most of the jews in Germany at the time had come from Poland, or other parts of Eastern Europe, so they were seen as outsiders.

    Many died of starvation towards the end of the war, as food supplies ran low. Many of these jews died after the Nazi guards had abandoned the prison camps, leaving the already malnourished residents to fend for themselves.
     
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    I love the blame the victims crowd. Can you explain why the Jews of 1933 Germany may have called for a boycott of the country after January of that year. (hint read history and not crazy anti-semitic websites)
     
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    Problem solved:
    Post WW2 borders should have just designated the
    Great Askkenazi nation from the Rhine to the Soviet border, taking Romania, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Austria, to the south.
    I am sure they would have treated their Christian population benevolently.

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    Balfour articulated the British desire for the establishment of “a national home for the Jewish people”...
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    The Balfour Declaration still divides the Middle East 100 years later
    November 2,`17 - In a year brimming with profoundly symbolic centennials, Thursday marks perhaps the most politically fraught one. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will appear in London alongside his British counterpart, Theresa May, to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the Balfour Declaration, a 67-word missive from Britain’s then-foreign secretary expressing his government's support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
     
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    That wouldn't have worked either.

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    Gee, thought there would be many comments about that as over the many centuries, Muslims protected Jews from Christian prosecution whether it be from the Inquisition, Tsarists, or Nazis. If it had not been for these heroic and principled Muslims, Jews may likely have been wiped out from Europe. Sad that this fact is disregarded by so many Islamophobes.
     
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    The muslims probably wanted them because, as non-muslim infidels, they would be subject to the dhimmi tax. That would be more revenue for fighting the christian kingdoms.
     
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    If that was so, Middle Eastern Arabs/Muslims would have done all they could to recruit Jews to live among them. History shows they made no such recruitment efforts though they did open the door to them when they suffered pogroms or other forms of persecution.
     
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    Where could have the Jews gone is: Israel?
     
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    Churchill suggested one the colonies in Africa, but the Zionists pushed for their Ancestral homeland.
    And why not?
    It was created by the UK and recognised by the US and whoever says the British Empire was illegal is wrong because it isn't and history gets written by the winners.

    Sorry first nations and everything, hate the Feds as much as the next when it comes to Freedom, but what's the point of having an Empire if you can't create Israel?
    Was it some of our best work? IDK
    I just know we have Israel and that was in the Bible...
    I take Israel for granted but it's relatively new, yet it's in the Bible.
     
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    Those taxes had long been dead.
     
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    By far the place most of them wanted to go to was America.
     
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    This is about the difference between a state obligation and an individual's. An individual has choices, plans and aspirations that can impact his destiny and his caloric intake. He can be clever, or hard working or mobile, and those attributes can offer him some control. If you lock someone in a box, you are completely morally responsible to supply him nutrients or you are completely responsible for his lack of nutrients.
     
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