Where my world view diverges from most

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  1. Distraff

    Distraff Well-Known Member

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    A few individual atheists changed their lives because of the emotionally powerful experience they had. It doesn't mean that experience was actually supernatural.
     
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    What we know so far about quantum mechanics seems to point to actual chance, but I guess that could change at some point. There are some physicists who believe in superdeterminism.
     
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    But several NDEs have pointed to universal salvation. So no luck required. Everyone gets saved eventually.
     
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    It has to be that way because information is not added from generation to generation. As an animal becomes what man considers complex the possible genetic combinations decrease. It is ...DNA I mean... Just four letters in different combinations. Genetics works on chance.
     
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    Complete and utter nonsense!

    You imaginary deity "created" EVERYTHING which INCLUDES evil.

    Your imaginary deity committed evil atrocities like murdering who knows how many innocent "first born" on a whim to pick just one among so many.

    Your imaginary deity both created evil and was responsible for evil actions per his own INFALLIBLE WORDS.

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/isa/45/7/s_724007

     
  6. dairyair

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    Yes.
    Google it. Or read the bible. Use the original English one, KJV.
     
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    Yes, I guess I didn't state it correctly. Wrong in fact.
    The casino's understand randomness. Which isn't really random. They know the odds of what seems to be random. That is how casinos stay in business.
    What seems random is statistics. And the house is stacked statistically in their favor.
     
  8. dairyair

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    Could either made a different choice?
    Is God omniscient in LDS?
     
  9. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think I have investigate GOD enough to figure out he created the Universe.

    As to human behavior, I do not claim he is responsible for what humans do.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Quite true about the house. Players however can be educated to play a better quality of game than the house plays.

    For instance, the house stands on 17. Players are not obliged to follow that pattern.
    The house is not counting cards nor using a betting system that is best for the player.
    A true gambler is a loser. A true winner has a grasp of the game and employs tactics to help win his game.
     
  11. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is a new one on me. Can God know everything about all humans at the same time? I tend to doubt this. Can GOD create a universe? This I do believe. Can GOD offer believers a best outcome afterlife? I believe GOD can.
     
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    No randomness involved. Especially if card counting is involved. It comes down to statistics.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good question. Hitler as you and myself was a born human being. And like us, he had various experiences that molded him to the person he was when needed by Germany.

    He vastly improved Germany prior to his unwise and German killing wars. So he changed.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree. I have a proven system for Blackjack. And if a player has the capital, it works well.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you come from nothing? I realize that science has no consensus. I do not need consensus for my concepts.

    If there was something prior to the universe being created, enlighten us all what that was?
     
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    Doubling one's bet everytime they lose would work also, If one has the funds. Would it not?
     
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    I vote energy. It's always existed.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not clear why you said supernatural. If I said you had a father and mother, are they supernatural?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Great question. I never advocate doubling the bet. I do advocate, once one fully understand the game, they start with a fixed amount, Let's say $10 and then double the $10 and add $10 more.

    I discourage those who have a small bankroll from using this system.

    I have taught this system and got reports back about winnings at the Roulette wheel. I never tried the wheel myself.
     
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    Why do you think that? What if GOD is energy?
     
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    God maybe energy.
    But without all the human qualities religions attach.
     
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    Why would a non Human God create as his sole self evaluating creation, to wit: Humans?
     
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    Who said we were created? Anymore than rocks were created?
    We could have just evolved. Makes more sense to me than having some air blown into dirt.
    But now I type that, maybe that's where we evolved from. Air and dirt.
     
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    Satan can masquerade as an angel of light. All such claimed special revelations are to be judged against the yardstick of Scripture.
     
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    Where did the air and dirt come from? Why is there something rather than nothing? Who put the information in cells, information greater than a set of encylopaedias? Where have we ever seen information not put there by intelligence?

    You want to believe nothing x nobody = everything, have at it.
     
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