Which of the US-Presidents in this list would you call a bad President?

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Which of the US-Presidents in this list would you call a bad President?

  1. Nixon

    22 vote(s)
    53.7%
  2. Ford

    5 vote(s)
    12.2%
  3. Carter

    15 vote(s)
    36.6%
  4. George H. W. Bush

    8 vote(s)
    19.5%
  5. Clinton

    8 vote(s)
    19.5%
  6. George W. Bush

    19 vote(s)
    46.3%
  7. Obama

    17 vote(s)
    41.5%
  8. Trump

    22 vote(s)
    53.7%
  9. Biden

    19 vote(s)
    46.3%
  10. Reagan

    10 vote(s)
    24.4%
  11. somebody else

    6 vote(s)
    14.6%
  12. nobody

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Lindis

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    Which of the US-Presidents in this list would you call a bad President?

    You have got more than just one vote.
     
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    All the names on this list have now got already one or two votes!
    I did not expect that!
     
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    Now Trump is leading.
    He is the only one with THREE votes.
     
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    Update:

    4 x Trump
    3 x Nixon
    3 x Reagan

    Why Reagan, if I may ask?
     
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    I'm just guessing as I didn't vote for him but I'm guessing it has, at least in part, to do with "Reagannomics".
     
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    Reagan talked a good game but had horrific results. Had John Anderson won we'd probably have electric flying cars and a balanced budget with lower taxes now.
     
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    Update:

    7 x Trump
    6 x Nixon
    5 x George W. Bush

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    and lest I forget:

    2 x Biden
    2 x Obama
     
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    Obama by a Texas mile. He had a lousy economy and did a terrible job fighting ISIS.His prejudging police killings on Blacks, helped create Black Lives Matter. He also gave in to Russia. Don't know what he did good except tell people what they wanted to hear.
     
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    Reagan had a much better economy than Carter. He ran up a big debt making sure the Soviets didn't out arm us, but his policies towards the Soviets helped bring them down and freed millions of people in Europe.
     
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    Not surprising sense the bias news refused to tell anything good he did. Trump had one of the best economies we have ever had, but half the nation knows nothing of it. Here is what the Democrats knew about all the good Trump did.

     
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    Nixon wasn't that bad a President. His problem is trying to keep his knowledge the break in at the Democratic headquarters a secret. He didn't know it was going to happen and had no part in planning it. But after his people told him what they had done, Nixon tried to hide knowledge of it, which led to his resigning.
     
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    all of them. some were better than others, but we have a long history of electing the worst of us. we'd be better off selecting people to office by lottery than voting... none of us are as stupid as all of us.
     
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    Now:

    9 x Trump
    8 x Nixon
     
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    Trump is the worst president, closely followed by G.W. Bush.
     
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    The economies of Nixon, Ford and Carter grew rapidly, far more than Reagan's. It was caused by Boomers hitting the job market and becoming consumers. Any president elected after Carter was destined to have an even better economy as the adjustment to Boomers settled.
    The big debt he ran up did a few things, one was to make the military far more bloated to no advantage. When the USSR failed well after Reagan was no longer president, it turned out that they were spending less on their military rather than more. The USSR failed to their bad economy, Lech Wallesa and the Pope. Reagan gave a speach.
    Reagan set the precedent of heavy overspending. You say he lowered taxes? Not in the least, he chose to multiply the debt by more than tripling it rather than collecting the taxes to pay for his spending. Bush Sr did the heavy lifting and Clinton finished the job of getting back to balanced budgets. Pity about Bush Jr. reversing the progress of his father and Clinton.

    No, Reagan was charismatic and entertaining but I'd rather have a president that does what needs doing.
     
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    Up until four years ago I would have picked George Jnr but Trump is simply another league
     
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    That is because we are all drowning in the bad.
    https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-atrocities-1-1-056

    over 1,000 “Cruelties,collusion, corruptions and crimes

     
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    Biden is already the worst in my lifetime and he’s got 3 1/2 years to go…….. if his handlers let him go that long.
    Obama for his racial division.
    LBJ for his mishandling of Vietnam and for being a racist.
    Carter for being a real dumb, yet smart man.
     
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    Why is that so?
    What has he done wrong?
     
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    So far I only selected Obama and Biden.....

    but I did come up with an idea for which I could give Obama at least significant credit.......
    he did save us from President Hillary.....
    for which I am eternally grateful......



    President Obama delayed and delayed, Iridium System Mark of the Beast

     
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    June 5, 2004, 4:43 PM MST / Source: The Associated Press


    He stunned the Soviet Union with his tough rhetoric, calling it an “evil empire” whose leaders gave themselves the “right to commit any crime.”

    His famed “Star Wars” program drew the Soviets into a costly arms race it couldn’t afford. His 1987 declaration to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev at the Berlin Wall — “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall” — was the ultimate challenge of the Cold War.

    Ronald Reagan’s determination to destroy communism and the Soviet Union was a hallmark of his eight-year presidency, carried out through a harsh nuclear policy toward Moscow that softened only slightly when Gorbachev came to office.

    He is vividly remembered in Russia today as the force that precipitated the Soviet collapse.

    “Reagan bolstered the U.S. military might to ruin the Soviet economy, and he achieved his goal,” said Gennady Gerasimov, who served as top spokesman for the Soviet Foreign Ministry during the 1980s.

    Reagan’s agenda toward Moscow started shortly after the start of his first term — and marked a major departure from the mild detente of the Jimmy Carter administration.

    In 1981, Reagan backed his rhetoric with a trillion dollar defense buildup. U.S.-Soviet arms control talks collapsed, and the two nations targeted intermediate-range nuclear missiles at each other across the Iron Curtain in Europe.

    The deployment of the U.S. missiles in Europe rattled the Kremlin’s nerves, because of the shorter time they needed to reach targets in the Soviet Union compared to intercontinental missiles deployed in the United States.

    In an even bigger shock to the Kremlin, Reagan in 1983 launched an effort to build a shield against intercontinental ballistic missiles involving space-based weapons.

    The Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), dubbed “Star Wars,” dumped the previous doctrine of Mutual Assured Destruction that assumed that neither side would start a nuclear war because it would not be able to avoid imminent destruction.

    Even though Reagan’s “Star Wars” never led to the deployment of an actual missile shield, it drew the Soviets into a costly effort to mount a response. Many analysts agree that the race drained Soviet coffers and triggered the economic difficulties that sped up the Soviet collapse in 1991.
     
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    Though Reagan's legacy is mixed in the U.S., across much of central and eastern Europe he is considered the greatest American leader in recent history for challenging the Soviet Union.

    The moniker he gave it -- the "evil empire" -- resonated with Poles, who suffered greatly under Moscow-imposed rule.

    "I wonder whether today's Poland, Europe and world could look the same without president Reagan," Walesa said. "As a participant in those events, I must say that it's inconceivable."

    The 11.5-foot bronze statue depicts a smiling Reagan in a historic moment -- as he stood at a podium at Berlin's Brandenburg gate in 1987 and said the famous words, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall."
     
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    Ignorance is rampant.
     
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    I would have to say no one was worse than Obama. Trump did very well but the bias news wouldn't tell any of it.

    https://www.atr.org/thanks-trump-median-household-income-highest-level-ever

    Real median household income has grown by $4,144 or 6.8 percent since President Trump took office, according to an op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal.
    This data is based on a report released by Sentier Research analyzing the Census Bureau’s monthly Current Population Survey.
    As noted in the op-ed, authored by Stephen Moore, real median household income is at an all-time high:
    “Real median household income—the amount earned by those in the very middle—hit $65,084 (in 2019 dollars) for the 12 months ending in July. That’s the highest level ever and a gain of $4,144, or 6.8%, since Mr. Trump took office. By comparison, during 7½ years under President Obama—starting from the end of the recession in June 2009 through January 2017—the median household income rose by only about $1,000.”
    The below chart highlights the strong Trump wage growth.


    Economy & Politics: Income Gap Grows under Trump, Obama — but ...
    www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/income-gap-growth...
    Indeed, in a bit more than half of his term, Trump’s $5,003 mountain of growth in median household income is 346 percent higher than Bush-Obama’s $1,444 molehill of marginal middle-class earnings. https://www.nationalreview.com/.../income-gap-growth.../


    Record low unemployment for Blacks and Hispanics

    Black and Hispanic unemployment is at a record low
    www.cnbc.com/2019/10/04/black-and-hispanic...
    Oct 04, 2019 · The jobless rate for Hispanics hit a record low of 3.9% in September, while African Americans maintained its lowest rate ever, 5.5%. The Hispanic women unemployment rate was 3.8% in September and ..
     

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