Which Party Is The Big Tent Inclusive Party?

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  1. independentthinker

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    Is it the party who censures Kyrsten Sinema for not going along with the collective? Is it the party who wants to run bisexuals out of the party? Is it the party who wants to primary Sinema and Manchin out because they are not welcome in the party tent and want to exclude them from the inclusive party?
     
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    Political parties benefit candidates for office by helping them get elected. Why a voter would "belong" to one is beyond me.
     
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    independentthinker Well-Known Member

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    My fantasy world would include making a law where just people ran for office. All "parties" would be outlawed. The ballot would have a list of names with no parties. People would merely vote for who they thought was the best person. It would me virtually impossible to vote for a party candidate because there would be no parties.
     
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    I agree but human nature will create a source to power every time, regardless of what you call it or how it is structured. Political parties have been around since the first day of democracy.
     
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    At this point, haven't we seen the downside of big tents? Democrats are drowning in theirs. Sometimes, just ensuring that everyone's freedoms and rights are protected is all that folks actually want. The democrat plantation isn't going to protect those...
     
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    Hypocrisy has no limits in this world.

    You voted for Trump, right?

    Maybe you just came back to earth, but the guy publicly insulted for 4 years every elected GOP official who dared to make a single criticism of him.

    Do you know what a RINO is?

    Thanks to Trump, the GOP has become an asylum.... in the sense of a madhouse.

    So obviously, despite some differences of opinion, the Democratic party is by far the most inclusive.
     
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    lololololololololololololololol sinema good buttigieg bad, eh thinker? sexual propensity had nothing to do with it. i will admit that if a congresscritter is caught feeling up the pages or cruising a mens room it is usually one of your inclusive family values types.

    sinima has been censured by the party of her own state, so has cheney.

    a serious question, thinker, in this post trump era (or "continuing trump era" for us pessimists) are "family values" still the top conservative issue?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please remind us how Republicans are treating Liz Cheney, and others who refuse to kiss the boots of Donald Trump.
     
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    Touché
    Liz Cheney is a conservative that puts country over party or cult. She is committed to her morals, hence, an enemy to Trump (zero morals, no bottom) and surprising still to me, his base.
     
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    The GOP by a mile is the Big Tent "Includers" vs the shrinking teepee cancelers. Take our civil rights to self-defense, ever more important because the pro-riot, turn loose the criminals policies of some:

    THE CULTURE HAS CHANGED: Boom: 5.4M first-time gun buyers, 33% women, blacks up 44%.
    We all know which party does a better job securing our basic civil right to effective self-defense.

    Remember when Dems were sure they could ignore issues, just focus on demographics and threaten the jobs of folks that had been in their voting coalition for generations, dismissively name calling them and telling them to "learn to code" even though they import foreign workers to fill those coding jobs?
     
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    How can you call your self inclusive when you kick people out of the party with differing opinions? That's not being inclusive.
     
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    Is all of that your way of admitting that it's not inclusive when you kick people out of the party who have differing opinions?
     
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    I'm merely saying that the party who claims they are inclusive is kicking people out of the party who have differing opinions. How is that inclusive? Or is your point that neither party is inclusive? It is the democrats who say they are inclusive and yet, apparently, they are not when they kick people out of their club.
     
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    It seems you are looking at only one facet of inclusion for your example. Should you expand that a little, I think you'll find that the tent is much bigger on the left.
     
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    Dude if you think Republicans are the big tent party you're not thinking clearly.

    I'm not saying that makes the dems a good choice or anything, and I'm not saying it make the pubs a good choice either.
    Both groups only capture around a 3rd of the electorate for a reason.
     
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    I would suppose that 'inclusiveness' includes people who don't walk in lock step, eh?
     
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    The GOP has become very inclusive and diverse..... except for people who like immigrants, gays, transgenders, rights for black people, and folks who refuse to lick Trump's boots.
     
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    This thread is about democrats claiming they are the big tent inclusive party and yet they are trying to exclude two from their party, which is NOT inclusive and not having a big tent. If you don't agree with the collective you are run out of town. I'm not commenting on the Republicans because I don't hear them claiming they are the big tent inclusive party.
     
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    You're making an obvious juxtaposition, don't be coy about it.
     
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    How are the Republicans treating people who reject Trump?
     
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    Are you the inclusive big tent party or not? Are you better than the other side or are you saying that you're equals? It is Democrats who claim they are the big tent inclusive party and yet when two of their members go astray they get kicked out of the big tent inclusive party, not welcome anymore. They are excluded from the inclusive party.
     
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    I wonder what the Republicans would have done to Liz Chaney if they were in control of the House?

    Censored? Expelled? One can only imagine.
     
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    Seems like all you can say is that BOTH parties are not big tent parties nor inclusive.
     
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    Ummmmmmmmmmmm, both Manchin and Sinema are putting country over the party collective.
     
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    No matter how you want to deflect it, Democrats are excluding two senators from their big tent inclusiveness.
     

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