Whistleblower complaint against Trump declassified, could be released Thursday

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    SNIP
    The details have not been made public, though it has widely been reported that the complaint involves Trump, funding for Ukraine and an attempt to get information about former Vice President Joe Biden and his family.

    The complaint was filed last month by the acting inspector general for Director of National Intelligence, who found it to be "credible" and "urgent." It was supposed to be turned over to Congress within a week, but acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire refused to do so on the advice of the Justice Department.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...lassified-could-be-released-thursday-n1058876

    MSNBC reporting is now that is WILL be released today, not could.

    I saw some threads saying Ben Sasse was pushing the brakes yesterday... His current quote is "Really troubling things here".

    Can't wait... As expected, this is more important than the phone call transcript...

    Also, as expected, the Trumpers will get their talking points to explain why getting dirt on Biden is good for America... Can't wait for that either....

    If the complaint can somehow tie the hold of the Ukrainian funding to the request for Biden dirt, will that move any needles?
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You've got him this time...
     
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  3. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You may be right...
     
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    It seems that Trump mentioned Crowd Strike and got all the democrat hand puppets in a tizzy.
     
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    Pretty big if.

    So far every report is that the complaint was second hand.

    Hard to see how a second hand report of something someone HEARD is more important than the transcript.
     
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  6. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think most people blew right by that part of the conversation.... It's evidence of a paranoid mind, but that's not the impeachable part..

    I bet the WB complaint doesn't mention Crowd Strike...
     
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    All you can do is "bet" at this point. Much like the hand puppets, you are getting your hopes up for nothing.
     
  8. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We'll have to read it to find out... But I expect the happiest person in the US today is ACTING DNI Maguire... He's still not in the clear, but the questioning should be a little easier this morning since Schiff's committee has already seen the complaint.

    I wonder if the complaint is released to the public before 9am that Maguire can be questioned on the contents now? Interesting twist to this hearing...
     
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    MSNBC? :lol:

    Oh, lord. Given that Fake News propaganda outlet's track record I wouldn't get your hopes up.

    Because "We choose "truth" over facts".

    I can't wait to see the correspondence where the Great Pumpkin threatened the Ukrainians to do what he asked of them or he'd cut off their aid.....like Chuckles the Vice Presidential Clown did.

    Better yet, I can't wait for him to get in front of the media and brag about it. :smile:

    Getting dirt on presidential candidates is good for America - unless you're a Democrat.

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    Wanna buy a Russian pee-pee tape?

    Is this the same complaint filed by a "whistleblower" who had no direct and firsthand knowledge of the conversation between the two presidents?

    Real credible.

    I don't doubt that the "whistleblower" will try to make a connection, and there's no doubt that the Democrats will because, you know - "truth" over facts.

    But until I see where Trump pulled a Biden I'm filing this under Nothingburger 3.0.

    As for the Dem dog and pony show du jour, I would prepare to be disappointed if I were you.

    PS. While I'm not a legal expert I am a student of History, and judging from the actions of previous presidents who have cut-off and withheld aid for a variety of reasons and have demanded action and asked favors from foreign leaders, I presume that this president is free to do so, as well. Again, I'm not a legal expert - I just play one on the Political Forum.

    PPS. I'm glad to see Democrats are suddenly concerned about military aid to Ukraine. I don't recall hearing a chorus of outrage during the time that one of their own refused to let the Ukrainians purchase lethal weaponry from us despite the fact the Republican-controlled Congress gave a "more flexible" (towards the Russians, at least) president the green light on the sales. After all these years it's refreshing to see Dems at least pretend that they're interested in upholding the commitment our country made to Ukraine in the Budapest Memorandum of 1994. Up to this point Dems were content to leave the Ukrainians to chuck rocks at Russian tanks.
     
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    I bet there was manipulation of the memorandum of the phone call.
     
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    Stormy was surely going to do Trump in... now’s the Ukrainegate?
     
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    Ah, that must be it! Just like there was manipulation of the results of Mueller investigation?
     
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    Really? It could have read worse?? LOL....
     
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    Stormy/Cohen should have done Trump in... It was enough for impeachment.

    Ukraine might actually be enough for removal.... Ben Sasse might be the next Justin Amash..... a Republican with a brain...
     
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    This. The left would make a deal with the devil to get dirt on Trump and then pretend it was "for the good of America" or "in the interest of transparency" or who the hell knows what else. But if Trump inquires about one of their own, it's Fish Food Gate and the Russian Collusion Delusion all over again, impeach!!!!
     
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    Oh yeah, nothing to see here, folks

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    @MissingMayor is probably right... more to this phone call than was in the transcript...
     
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    You must be upset that they were absolutely right.
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I could be wrong, but it seems to me these 2 paragraphs will be the driving force behind this complaint

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    Because there was no distribution or coordination needed or planned?
    Third hand hearsay.
     
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    The guy didn't get a phone call from Trump explaining his desire to ensure the aid would not fall into corrupt hands so he got pissed and filed a complaint?
    Third hand hearsay
     
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    Oh yeah, libs got him this time. May I suggest a Special Counsel appointment and he can hire 20 or so hard right wing cut throat attorneys to investigate this Ukraine deal. Biden could Paul Manafort's cell mate.
     
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    Yeah, they moved it to a code word level secret system because that's where they store all the unimportant stuff. :confuse:
     
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    I think Trump was giving Zelensky his secret recipe for how to close an umbrella...

    The 2 things that make you think the call transcript is incomplete

    - The call was reported to be 30 minutes long... Even allowing for protocol issues, there's no way that transcript lasts 30 minutes
    - The reports are Biden/Son were mentioned 8 times... I only saw 2 in the "transcript"

    Oh lordy, there are tapes!! (Digital of course)
     
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