Whistleblower complaint against Trump declassified, could be released Thursday

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  1. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ROFL! I listened to the DNI speak in front of Congress under oath this morning. No one, but him, held up or covered up the release of the transcript. He did so for a 2nd legal review to be sure it was all above boards. You are talking out of your ass.
     
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  2. Draco

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    The 1.5 month delay in Javelin missiles that Obama refused to sell Ukraine for 8 years?

    So wierd..... they hated and blamed everything in the world on Russia, yet they won't give their front line Ukrainian friends the surface to surface missiles needed to take out Russian tanks.

    Very strange.....
     
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    I didn’t ask about holding up the transcriptvor the report. That seems like it could be reasonable.

    Why’d they hold up the aid?
    Why did they try to cover up the call?
     
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    Dude, do you really not see what you are doing?

    YOU are the one who said the Mueller report was done, that it "Proved" Russia did it.

    I showed you articles that it is not "Proven", there are plenty of people who still do not know who did it.

    You are spreading more fake news.

    Would you like to talk about the actual topic now?
     
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    What cover? He literally just released the transcripts like ... a day, after it was requested?

    You are saying more fake news
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    The entire trump admin blames Russia. Why?
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    I see you’re not following this story. You should start with the whistle blower complaint then get back to me.
     
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    We all know... it's going to be another Blasey Ford type of partisan. This whole event was started by a partisan attack. How do I know? Because, the law firm this "whistleblower" chose is nothing more than a Leftwing attack group created in 2017 to Impeach Trump. They roll around the White House and D.C. with banner trucks telling people to turn on the President and call them with any information and they will pay for your apartment, medical, legal, and other expenses. I can't wait for this to all come out. As bad as the Democrats look right now, they are going to look even worse.
     
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    This is your main problem, you guys are inventing Hollywood stories and expecting people to go along with them, when the truth is literally right there for them to see.

    "...withholding desperately-needed foreign aid"

    You mean Javelin missiles? The same ones that Obama refused to sell them? Why are they "all the sudden" desperately needed? Especially when the Ukraine Russia issue is much more "quiet" than it was during the Obama years?

    More fake news? Yeah, likely....
     
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    Oh look! Another personal attack using framing

    "You disagree with me so you are obviously not following the story"

    lol, I watched about two hours of the hearings this morning before heading to the office, it was laughable at best.

    The whistle blower complain followed all proper laws, including finding out whether or not the President was using Executive Privilege, which he did not, which allowed the rest of the process to proceed.

    You guys are trying to complain about the process, whether or not Trump should have had the opporutnity to use EC, which eh didn't.

    Furthermore, they went to Congress last week ASKING FOR ANOTHER WEEK TO LOOK IT OVER. Then you have Congress and all you Progressives/Communists, trying to use that as an attack.

    Right after Congress itself "ok'd" the week extension.

    Any other fake news you need cleared up?
     
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    LOL... what cover?? That's not a good sign you are actually attempting to engage somebody that far behind the story, but best of luck...
     
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    Bingo, people see it though, like I said above, this is likely going to create another 50,000 - 100,000 Trump voters, or at least Democrats who stay home.

    They are BRUTALLY killing themselves here, its hilarious.
     
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    Why?? It's 9 pages... I read it in 25 minutes...

    The law calls for 7 business days, so work over the weekend if you cannot meet that...

    And you still haven't addressed the cover up of the call recordings..
     
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    Again you’re showing you didn’t read the report.

    "In the days following the phone call, I learned from multiple U.S. officials that senior White House officials had intervened to 'lock down' all the records of the phone call, especially the official word-for-word transcript of the call that was produced as is customary by the White House situation room," the complaint says.
     
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    Are you implying that all anyone in government or legal areas needs to do is

    "READ IT"

    And then the rest is done? Really? Are you that uneducated into how procedures work? If this wasn't a big deal, why did the Democrats/Communists in Congress give them the week extension?

    oh right, you have no clue because it doeskin' fit your fake, communist propaganda.
     
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    This is the sad one where neither side is ever going to have a real answer for the other side.

    People on the right claim that the infrastructure you are talking about is completely corrupted and leaks like this seem to prove true.

    You guys are defending a leak that we now know came from absolutely nothing.

    But I do give you credit, this is likely the only "avenue of attack" the Progressives/Communists can use because there isn't a good explanation, other than:

    "The Deep State is corrupt and new safer means of communication need to be found"

    But I agree, that is likely your best line of attack. The rest of it is very easily provable BS
     
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    Should trump fire his acting DNI for praising the WB
     
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    They are claiming they moved the conversations to a different server.

    Republicans are claiming the "Deep State" has too many connections to it and it is where the leaks are coming from.

    Democrats are claiming Trump is trying to subvert the law.

    Until we have more data one way or the other, neither is provable and doesn't really matter.

    We now have the whistle blower, we have the conversation and we have President Zelensky saying it is all a joke.

    This is literally their only hope
     
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    No

    Next question
     
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    Why not? You think the person is a deep state criminal. Did you see how much the DNI praises them?
     
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    LOL... you're the one who said "look it over"... at least I was giving them the benefit of the doubt they can read.

    By the time the extension was granted, they were already well over the deadline, so Schiff made yet another accommodation to get this scum to conform...
     
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    The only way you are going to create another 50-100K Trump voters is by kidnapping...

    I'm not one, but the Dems I know are freaking stoked over the idea of removing this amoral unethical criminal from the White House... If by chance (or cover up), he's still standing next November, you ain't keeping any of them home...
     
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    Good, it makes me happy that you guys are ok with the tone of your shrinking party.

    Can get back to two parties who actually believe in America and Capitalism to continue on with the nation.
     
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    They are actually just making crap up.

    Adam Schiff, in his opening statement, actually made up a fictional version of what he wanted to have happened, attacked the massive Straw Man he created, and then later called it a "parody". This is the most unprofessional, disgusting, and dishonest crap that I've seen in a long time.

    His imaginary, hypothetical event starts at 3:10.



    Schiff is all about subversion, duplicity, and lies. This is the modern Democratic Party.
     
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    Where did I say I thought Mcguire was a "Deep State Criminal"?

    What kind of full on lie is that? Come on man, you can do better.

    The Deep State is intermittently placed within spots of the government, particularly the CIA, DOJ and FBI.

    You are trying to obfuscate the conversation, by twisting my words into 'They are all Deep State'

    That is not what I said, making your comment literally worthless.

    Anything else?
     
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