White Ethnomasochism

In most of the cases throughout history when the Jews were stripped of wealth and property, it's because they were hording all of the wealth in their own community. Jews would move into a nation, do business with the locals, lend money, charge interest, and then only do their shopping from fellow Jews in order to maintain a powerful Jewish class, rather than actually integrating into the nation they were living in. Eventually, the host nation would realize this, see it was hurting their economy, and kick the Jews out. This is why the Jews have been exiled from more countries than any other ethnic group in history. If you live in a country with a lot of Jews, then you should already be aware of this. Jewish families will be living in a country for dozens of generations and still have their own neighborhoods that non-Jews can't by homes in. Even in America, the Irish and the Italians, after generations of cultural segregation, began willingly integrating into the American population and culture.

Which part of my characterization of Jewish actions do you reject?
Are you saying there isn't a lot of ethnocentrism among Jews? Are you saying they don't have a huge fear of foreign nationalism?

So explain to me why Japan, Hong Kong, South Korea, and Israel have all managed to become modern first world rich countries in this new globalist world without opening their borders to mass immigration. Explain to me why Tokyo and Hong Kong are both alpha cities, yet Tokyo is still strongly Japanese, and Hong Kong is still strongly Han Chinese.

I never said "white culture." I said white people are the only people who see something shameful and wrong about preserving their countries and culture. Yes, Western culture is distinctly unique too. And for some reason it's only in the West that ethnomasochism exists.
But yeah, there are in fact many white cultures. Irish is a white culture. And if Ireland is flooded with immigrants with high birthrates, while the Irish birthrate falls, then Irish culture dies out. The same goes for the cultures of the Italians, Swedes, French, English, Russians, Koreans, Mexicans, Swiss, Moroccans, Egyptians, and literally any other ethnic group on the planet.

So again, I pose this question. Why is ethnomasochism, multiculturalism, open borders, and the desire to see one's homeland completely ethically changed so common in the West, but nowhere else.
You don't think it's the Jews? Fine. So what is the reason?

 

Your explanation was "Western Civilization and Lutheranism."
My reply was to ask what about Western Civilization causes this, and how come non-Western nations that are more religious and more Lutheran don't have the same issue?
So what are the answers?

 

not completely. But to a large degree...yes. And your point is i agree because of white guilt? Thats taking a rather large leap into the unknown. You are mistaken. Assuming its guilt rather than...common sense? Pride in culture and history? Keep the white guilt attached to liberalism, where it belongs.

 

No, if you had white guilt, you would say Denmark should keep its borders open regardless of what damage was happening to its culture.
You do know that was my original argument, right? I wasn't saying white guilt means the opposite of that.

 

I'm not sure which non Western society is more Lutheran than any of the Western ones. That would be quite the interesting country. But since Jews live in both Western and Non-Western societies, but only Western societies are debilitated in the way you describe, I think we can rule out the Jews, unless you still think the Jews are behind it all?

 

i thought so, i got confused somewhere.

 

So if you think white countries should maintain their local populations and cultures, then you don't have white guilt or racist feelings against the white race.
However, your view is not common among conservatives. Most conservatives, at least in public, are fine with historically white nations being racially and culturally transformed as long as it is done legally.

 

i disagree with that, i think they are generally supportive of moderate to restrictive immigration. Perhaps the actual politicians policies speak differently, but joe blow conservative would disagree with you. Your taking a liberty with that assumption. The issue of white guilt is in my eyes contained solely with liberals and their opinion that any level of white PRIDE is indicitave of supporting slavery, racism or nazis. You see it all over MSM and pop culture, and an interesting phenomenon is white teenagers emulating african american culture as a result of their own mocked, ridiculed and frankly demonized heritage as caucasians.

 

According to this, there are quite a few countries outside of the Western world with plenty of Lutherans.
But this doesn't tell the whole story. This chart shows how many people are officially registered as Lutheran. Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Norway, and the Netherlands are actually some of the most irreligious countries in the world, each one having a very high Atheist population. So the non-Western nations here are far more Lutheran than any of those.
So at this point, can we rule out Lutheranism and Christianity?

It doesn't matter how many Jews are in a country, what matters is how much power Jews have over the media that country sees. American media is seen all over the world, especially in the West. And it's through the American media that the Jews have propagated white ethnomasochism.

 

Wow-------------an impressive new radical left buzz word. As with most of them, it is meaningless.

 

I watch Fox News from time to time, and despite the liberal media painting them as the white supremacist channel, I constantly see pundits like Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity towing the mainstream theory that any kind of pro-white attitude is Nazism. Maybe that is just conservative media, and average conservative Americans aren't like that. However in my experience, being pro-white is a dirty concept to them too, even if they're not SJW snowflakes like the liberals are.

 

Context?

 

i think that may be a result of the overzealus finger pointers who will call just about any white male conservative a racist. At this point, if your not constantly qualifying your words with something anti white pride or offering up someone to the liberal sacrificial altar of white privelage and ignorance, you are a racist in the eyes of the progressive. If we didnt have such an influential and enabled culture of anti white pride ingrained within the democratic culture. I doubt if you would see the same behavior that you pointed out.

 

i used the term for lack of a better one. To me, it means irrationaly focusing on everything white people have gotten wrong, like slavery, racism, etc., coupled with the implication that they are somehow alone in these faults, or measurably worse in some ways, than other ethnicities. The idea that just because of your skin color, you are spared the more difficult things in the world, even though these things are connected to poverty and the relative level of advancement in the given country- In other words, white privelege. I am speaking of these views when present in white people, and how it seems to result in a feeling of debt to the rest of the world. Surely, white culture has made terrible mistakes, but the idea that the modern american white male can be held emotionally or culturally responsible for the sins of people who often only shared the same skin color is illogical and in my eyes unethical. I get the vibe, if i may use the term, that the modern american liberal culture believes in this implied "debt".

 

Has the entire SJW concept of privilege escaped you?



Realize that the SJWs think that privilege is bad, so anybody who is dominant needs to "check their privilege".

Seriously? You've never heard of this?

 

There is quite a bit of literature on the subject, but hopefully the wiki article on intersectionality can expand a bit more on the subject.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality

Yeah, the idea that slavery or racism as a "white" phenomenon is pretty stupid to anybody with even a passing knowledge of history, and considering us colonial slave masters fought a civil war to end slavery, is entirely unjustified. Slavery and racism are almost endemic to the species, yet we have gone far and beyond what I believe is necessary to distance ourselves from it, in relation to blacks (who you would think would have more cause to end it than us white boys) or asians.

A very recent example would be affirmative action. Others would be the incessant claims of "That's racist!" from blacks in order to push the welfare button of white guilt. The examples of that are close to endless, from blacks demanding reparations to mexicans complaining about losing the mexican-american war. Consider the racist organizations such as La Raza, black lives matter, or the black caucus that exist with no push-back from lefties, while they equate conservatives with the racist nazi party that died with hitler in his bunker in 1945.

 

harm is the wrong word. I would use the term disrespect. The best i could find is a mtv news segment on things white guys can do better in 2017. things like this contribute to a negative image of white people, and this kind of stereotypical generalized criticism should not be practiced against any ethnicity. http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/20/mtv-news-offers-2017-resolutions-for-white-guys-bl/

 

Great video. I think he covered the issue very well, and it's something I have been saying for years. You only see this behavior in white people. They are the only ones that you will ever seen cheering on their own people losing power and majority status in the countries where they are dominant. They are the only ones being pressured into acting this way, and yes, Jews are definitely playing an active role in promulgating that mindset, due to their disproportionately high representation in media, Hollywood, Academia, and other areas. Whether or not they are the ones primarily responsible for this mindset spreading throughout the West depends on whether or not you believe Marxism is a Jewish ideology. Marx, Trotsky, Lenin, a disproportionately high amount of the Cheka, Alinsky, (and others) were all Jews; However, many non-Jews were responsible for Marxism as well. White ethnomasochism is from Marxism. Marxism sought to address the perpetual oppressor/oppresee power struggle in society by "organizing" the oppressed minority against the oppressor majority. That is why whites are targeted in the West, because they are the majority, and have historically had the most power. This propaganda has existed for so long that whites who have adopted Marxism (knowingly or otherwise) are now believers in it. Even though they are white, they see the destruction of their own race as a benefit, because it helps advance their political agenda.

As for why we don't see Marxists doing this against their own majorities in other countries - those countries are usually already Marxist, so that strategy doesn't need to be employed.

 

It all depends on whether or not you care if the US continues as a majority white, Western country. I get the sense that you don't care if it does.

 

They might be "staunch conservatives" in terms of wanting lower taxes and less regulations on their businesses, but ask them if they support the US remaining a majority white Western country. If they look at you funny and say the word "racist", you'll have your answer.

 

Believe it or not, I used to respond in a similar fashion to informative threads like this one when I joined nearly 5-6 years ago. It's probably the issue I've evolved the most in.

Watch the video in the OP. It says very little about Jews, but it talks a lot about why whites have been conditioned into believing the world would be better off without them.

 

Did you watch the video in the OP? It sums it up very well.

 

Of the countries on your list, the Western ones are the ones that seem to be most likely to welcome refugees and have a large percentage of their intelligentsia display the kind of white ethnomasochism that you describe. But why would non white countries have that? If they Lutherans hate white people, why would the Ethiopians care?

As for your Jew=Media link, you have not made it. I find gentile white liberals and jewish white liberals virtually identical. I'm not clear how Jewish liberals are bullying Gentile liberals into hating themselves. Surely you see that on an evidence based concept, your idea is ridiculous?