White House Blocked C.D.C. From Requiring Masks on Public Transportation

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    This act by Trump and Azar results in more people getting sick, and more people dying.
    In my view, Trump should be prosecuted for negligent homicide, or genocide, crimes against humanity, or something. He is evil. He was on Limbaugh for a couple of hours, ranting like a lunatic. No president in history would waste their time on a radio show, dropping F bombs on what they were going to do with Iran, not like this guy. Somebody take away his steroids before he pushes the nuke button.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/09/health/coronavirus-covid-masks-cdc.html
    The order would have mandated that both passengers and employees wear face coverings on planes, trains, buses and subways and in airports, stations and depots.
    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention drafted a sweeping order last month requiring all passengers and employees to wear masks on all forms of public and commercial transportation in the United States, but it was blocked by the White House, according to two federal health officials.
    The order would have been the toughest federal mandate to date aimed at curbing the spread of the coronavirus, which continues to infect more than 40,000 Americans a day. The officials said that it was drafted under the agency’s “quarantine powers” and that it had the support of the secretary of health and human services, Alex M. Azar II, but the White House Coronavirus Task Force, led by Vice President Mike Pence, declined to even discuss it.
     
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    nothing surprises me anymore about this Administration, hopefully Nov 3rd will bring hope for change
     
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    But Trump “ Gets it” now

    right?

    That’s why masks are mandatory at his rally today

    Right?
     
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    And then you call Trump a dictator.....LOL. Stop and think people.
     
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    "The two officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity..."

    In the Trump era, I've learned I can stop reading at this point.
     
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    Well there were more mask in the audience than usual but of course no social distancing.

    And of course those cretins removed their masks the minute the "event" was over
     
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    White House Blocked C.D.C. From Requiring Masks on Public Transportation

    It is not an appropriate role for the CDC to block. It should be recommending and nothing stands in the way of their doing that.
     
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    it also would've backfired. What we know about the virus now suggests that air conditioners circulate the droplets that are considered to be the main source of infection. Masks trap these aerosols so just imagine a bunch of people with masks, sneezing into their masks and inevitably adjusting and readjusting their masks(not to mention the aerosols that would've escaped the masks)

    I believe they would've gotten as sick, if not sicker. Sometimes "doing something", is not the right thing to do. Note that the entire task force rejected the CDC's recommendation. That would include of course, Dr. Fauci. The CDC thought it was the chain of command, it learned that no it wasn't.
     
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    Stunningly, there really are cowards in the West Wing of this government who will "speak on the condition of anonymity" to backstab, to undermine and destroy the administration. And seeing the polls as they are, they probably smell blood in the coming days and next couple of weeks.

    Yes, I blame them who thought they were "saving our country" in the West Wing for the circumstances that befall us now. If Trump didn't trust his team before, their actions DEFINITELY heightened(and confirmed) Trump's suspicions. A whole movie on them should be made(with a conservative, not liberal spin) called insidious bastards. Because it actually fits.

    Maybe Trump wasn't the right guy, but he didn't deserve what these so-called "Americans" did to his presidency.
     
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    So, Trump didnt mandate a mask law across all 50 states? You know what else he didnt do? He didnt mandate all schools close, all restaurants shut down, all economies shut down. That's because he is not a totaltarian dictator...AND he cant mandate schools all open. AND HE WANTS THEM OPEN. but hes not a dictator like the Biden admin would be....so he rightly leaves those decisions to states and localities.

    Liberals have a lot of hate and no logic. I just came off of a "Trump is a dictator" thread
     
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    The OP did not post any material demonstrating the efficacy of mask wearing against virus transmission. That's because there is no such material, so he could not.

    The OP did not post any material demonstrating the legal foundation regarding mask mandates, because there is no legal foundation for the mask mandates.

    Yet here we are in many places around the country where the 'recommendations' of unelected bureaucrats with vested interests have been treated as though they are statutory or constitutional mandates.

    That shows how gullible and afraid the American people have become, how corrupt their elected officials are, and how we have the government we very much deserve.
     
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    Yep, me too. Had to go to another link:
    "The two officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to comment, said the order would have required face coverings on airplanes, trains, buses and subways, and in transit hubs such as airports, train stations and bus depots." https://www.chicagotribune.com/coro...0201010-psgptcoew5duxpgiq7psahgxim-story.html

    October, and someone at the CDC just now figured out that people can catch it on a bus? They probably should have figured that one out in January, and the Mayor's of cities acted on it before requiring a federal dictatorship to force them.
     
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    Two officials speaking on condition of anonymity is the hallmark of government narratives regarding the Global War Of Terror and many other charades conducted by the federal government, before Trump ever took office.
     
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    You bring up a good point, when was this story supposed to have occurred?
     
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    Wow!

    To think that wearing masks SPREADS disease!

    All these doctors and nurses are killing their patients with the MAIN source of infection, instead of the traditional thought that sneezes and coughing infected other people!

    This secret Republican knowledge will save millions each year! And its all according to Trump and his doctors!

    Thank you all for your Secret Wisdom that medical science has been hiding from us!
     
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    Some American people.
     
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    With all due respect to all board members what I think we ought to do is circulate a document that everybody has to sign saying whether you support mask-wearing. If you don't then if you come to the hospital for direct COVID you're thrown into the street. You want to kill us all then you can go **** off and die yourself *******.
     
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    If the standard is how many people are wearing useless masks, most American people.
     
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    And you can prove this how?
     
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    By opening my eyes and ears and observing the humans around me.
     
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    SO you are just making claims with no real substance.

    Oh...
     
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    I don't have a problem with mask wearing. I have a problem with authoritarianism. You read things into the post that I didn't say. But your response tells me you don't have a problem authoritarianism.
     
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    I have a problem with cutting out my heart to spite my lungs. A lot of you anti-authoritarians seem quite devoted to the idea of dying even when you don't have to. That's your own hook, I suppose, but I don't want to be dragged into the grave with you.
     
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    Setting aside your normal Anti-Trump bias, Explain to me where you think any President, or the CDC derives the power to issue a nation wide mandate of this sort? There is are a couple means for the such a mandate to be issued, but I am curious why,nor by what reasoning you believe a president has the power.
     
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    Trump has claimed the power to issue nationwide mandates for everyone to stop all business with China. He's claimed the power to issue nationwide mandates to force all insurers to pay for pre-existing conditions. He's never been shy about claiming such absolute authority.
     
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