"White House seeks to clarify Trump remarks on emergency"

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because Congress gave presidents the power with broad authority and a way out for Congress so a judge will ask why they are taking it to court.
     
  2. ocean515

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    The President swore an oath to the people of the United States to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. Inherent to that pledge is to protect and defend the United States.

    The crisis on the border represents a threat to this Nation. Thousands of foreign Nationals are streaming across the Border every day.

    Invasion is defined as an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity. The United States is being invaded.

    The facilities currently in place are inadequate to address this invasion. Immediate action to address this deficit is critical in order to respond to this invasion.

    The process and politics of Congress is too slow to respond, which means a Presidential declaration of National Emergency is called for.

    That is the whole reason the President is given the authority to make such a declaration.
     
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    National emergencies in those countries?

    Thats laughable

    We are not the worlds baby sitter even though is seems like it at times

    The national emergency has to be for US

    Which the mass migration of illegal aliens at the mexican border certainly is
     
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    Are you sure?

    Margot2 and MrTLegal believe congress gave them the authority to decide not trump
     
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    Consider the lie contained in the thread title.

    "White House seeks to clarify...."

    They didn't seek to clarify anything. To suggest that is a lie. They responded to claims. No clarification was offered. But that's how the media works. The Hill is just another stooge in the fake media pile.

    The President's statement was perfectly clear. There is a crisis on the border that must be addressed. Congress is jacking around as it is want to do. The President was granted the exclusive power to do something about National Emergencies, given the realities of politics in Congress. It's the whole reason the President has the Emergency declaration power.

    And uninformed, cripplingly biased posters like Margot2 and MrTLegal (who should know better, given his claims about profession), are not capable of grasping that fact.
     
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    Illegal Immigration is at lowest point in over 48 years .............. No we don't have a NationaL Emergency
     
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    No one yet has shown how part of the Government ( in this case the DoD) moving part of its budget around ( led by the SoD) is against the Constitution....
     
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    We're being invaded???? OMG this is an act of war! why isn't the national guard or US Army on the borders fighting off this horrible invasion? Why haven't we seen Hundreds of thousands of troops stationed there to protect our borders?? Why haven't we invaded Mexico, removed the government and installed one that will work with the United State to protect the border??

    The fact of the matter is that Trump did nothing in his first two years when the republicans controlled both the House and the Senate when he could have gotten whatever funds he needed to build his Sacred Wall to keep out the invading forces over on the Mexican side. Now all of a sudden it's a priority. Give me a break please.
     
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    Army is on the border. You're hyperbole doesn't mask the gaping hole in your knowledge on the subject.

    The fact of the matter is it appears you don't have any idea what is actually going on, no clue what border facilities are in place, and no idea how many people are crossing the border every day and where.

    But you think your opinion matters, despite all that.

    That's a big ask.
     
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    Rape victims are begging the judges to lock up the criminal instead of deporting them because they just return and commit new crimes
     
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    Why didn't trump do anything meaningful to get the wall built during the first two years of his Presidency?
     
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    He was trying to work with the republican swamp rats in congress

    But the repub leadership wants open borders almost as much as the democrats
     
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    But, but he is supposed to the best deal maker in the world; why didn't he get the deal he wanted? Surely with his famous worldwide negotiating skills he would have gotten he five billion he wanted for the wall.
     
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    That only works when both sides want to deal

    The washington establishment in all three parties want trump to fail no matter what the cost to themselves or the country
     
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    At some point - when everyone disagrees with you, an intelligent person might ask themselves if the problem might be with their own ideas ...
    Just say'n.
     
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    Didn't do anything meaningful? Is your vagueness on purpose? What does meaningful mean to you?

    What do you think the President has been doing for two years? He's been fighting for more funding since he took office. They are building new wall sections. And the number of people apprehended and attempting to cross has increased.

    The liberal media I imagine you agree with has been calling what is going on at the border a crisis for the last few years.

    With the crisis increasing, DHS/CBP calling for more border structure, and a Congress grid locked because of partisan bullshit and positioning for 2020, the crisis needs to be addressed.
     
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    “Everyone” does not disagree with trump

    Many rank and file tepub members of congress want border defense

    But chambers of congress are dictatorships run with an iron fist by the party leaders

    And they do not approve of the peoples choice for president
     
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    Look, lets be honest; for the first two years of his administration, the republicans controlled both the house and senate. There is no reason why, if the wall was so important to American security, that they couldn't get legislation passed for the wall. And I don't buy obstruction theme his administration puts out in defense of it. They always had the nuclear option but chose not to utilize it. The fact of the matter is the republicans/trump blew it big time and are now shifting blame to the Congress.
     
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    You are aware the Republicans did not have a super majority in Congress? If not, you might want to ponder that.

    Second, money has been allocated during those two years. Not enough to address the growning crisis the liberal media has declaring is taking place on the border.

    You need to learn more about what has taken place, and what is actually going on, before continuing. Echoing talking points you've picked up from whatever sources you use isn't going to cut it.
     
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    You must have missed the part where I mentioned "nuclear option". There is no reason they couldn't have invoked that and achieved their goal.

    If that is true, then why didn't they ask for the monies to build the wall completely at that time using the nuclear option? The so-called "Liberal Media" can only report on what they observe.

    I appreciate your true and genuine concern about my needing to learn more about what has taken place; likewise I would suggest you practice what you preach as well. In this case, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this thread.
     
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    Ahhh yes, crocodile tears every time.
    Liberal media, is telling the other side. Same as fox did for Obama. However neither are running the country, that is Trump.
    I can't get enough of the crying about the media though, I really laugh my ass off at that. 8 years of make him fail & smack talk about Obamas religion & citizenship. With fox news trash talking nonstop, where was you outrage then? You were right there in the mix, and now with the show on the other foot, all of a sudden you want a new standerd of respect? No I think we're going to stay with the same standerd you used for Obama, you are a total hypocrite and now you sleep in the bed you made...lol
     
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    Good move on your part.
     
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    Keep laughing. You'll just blend in with all the people laughing at the NDP and their followers.

    BTW, did you know Fox, the singular target of the intellectually vacant, reaches about 1/10th the audience your liberal MSM partners reach by the hour? Did you know that the highest rated program on Fox is seen by only 3 million or so viewers, yet 63,000,000 voted for President Trump, and his approval rating is 45-50%?

    Do you think you should ask for better instructions about who to attack than this laughable meme about Fox your parroting?
     
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    I'm sure you think that post should mean something, but no it really doesn't. It's one great big nothing. This is not a long distance pissing contest. If your calling me intellectually vacant, that would be the height of hypocrisy, and leave me laughing for daaaaayyyys. Your trying to demonize one and at the same time try canonize the other, your not on my level in any meaningful way .
     
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    Eh. The Roberts court already sorted this out with the "Muslim ban". This particular court doesn't seem to care that his words are in contrast with his justifications. They simply think that as he has the power to do so, that all else is immaterial
     

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