White men are the greatest!

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  1. Yant0s

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    Can you think of any other race or gender that has contributed more to the worlds development and success than the white man.

    Society owes a lot to white men's greatness. Its kinda beautiful what they have built don't you think? :)
     
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    Any White people who think White men need to be patted on the back for their collective achievement have self-esteem issues and are White Supremacists. White men are no better or no worse than anyone else. They are just people. They do not need to be worshiped and they are not a collective consciousness as there are many White men who contributed nothing significant to society riding on the coattails of White men who did.
     
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    2019 nutshelled:

    "I'm proud to be black," said the black man.

    "I'm proud to be Asian," said the Asian man.

    "I'm proud to be white," said the racist.
     
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    I am proud to be Me, said the only sane person left on the planet.
     
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    At least we don’t need a history month.
     
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    Haha

    Why do you consider white people proud of their race White Supremacists?

    Are blacks that are proud of their ancestors achievements racists too?
     
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    Black History Month exists because of White Supremacy. If White Supremacists hadn't treated Black people so horribly, less than human in fact, there wouldn't be a Black History Month. This is just like Gay Pride parades. Why does it matter who someone has sex with (consenting adults)? Gay Pride comes from homophobes acting like being gay is something to be ashamed of. Black History Month was created because White Supremacists have tried to make Black people feel worthless. If any Black people have a self-esteem issue because of their race it is because of White Supremacists.

    Do you not agree? Or do you think racial slavery, terrorism, Jim Crow laws, racial bias in the criminal justice system and police brutality are meaningless?

    "Take up the White Man's Burden....half-devil and half child."

    That's what White Supremacists think of people of color and that is why White people acting like they are superior is racist.

    Why are you comparing yourself to other people in your opening post? Black people who are not Black Supremacists don't compare themselves to others when they talk about Black History Month or Black achievements.

    Your words: Can you think of any other race or gender that has contributed more to the worlds development and success than the white man.

    Society owes a lot to white men's greatness. Its kinda beautiful what they have built don't you think?

    The way I see it you are trying to devalue everyone who isn't a White man.
     
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    You really need to read about ancient India and its creation of mathematics, its science etc. The Greeks and their contribution. The Sumerians for their invention of writing. The Egyptians for their medical knowledge. None of them 'white'. .
     
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    Oh please! Go read some Greek poetry from say 500 B.C. It’s replete with talk of fair skin and golden hair.

    And the ancient Egyptians weren’t black.
     
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    As far as Egyptian s go they put pictures of themselves on their tomb walls.... You decide.
     
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    Personally, I think it a bit pathetic when people try to claim any connection to great inventors or thinkers just because they happen to share the same skin tone. Sad, really.
     
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    DNA testing shows African (sub Saharan) genes weren’t prevalent in Egyptians until about 500 A.D.
     
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    Well the Chinese have contributed quite a bit: paper, clock, wheelbarrow, gunpowder and printing to name but a few.
     
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    That DNA study
    was from the Late Period and its findings were debunked.

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    New Kingdom mummies show that the ancient Egyptians had Sub-Saharan African affinities.


    Were the Ancient Egyptians black? That is entirely up to you. But were they biologically African? It would seem that they were. After considering the full range of anatomical, linguistic, cultural, archeological and genetic evidence, Shomarka Keita feels confident in concluding that the original Egyptians by which he means the pre-dynastic people of Southern Egypt, who founded Egyptian civilization evolved entirely in Africa. Both culturally and biologically, he says, they were more related to other Africans than they were to non-Africans from Europe or Asia.

    Through the years, Keita believes, the Egyptians appear to have blended with many immigrants and invaders, many of whom were lighter-skinned and more Caucasoid in appearance than the original Egyptians. Libyans, Persians, Syro-Palestinians, Assyrians, Greeks, and Romans all left their imprint on the faces of Egypt. But Egyptian civilization remained profoundly African to the very end.

    Keita himself rarely resorts to such crudely racial expressions as black and white. But if we might be forgiven a momentary lapse into everyday speech, it would probably not hurt to conceive of Keita's theory as the polar opposite of the Hamitic Hypothesis. Whereas the Hamitic theorists saw Egypt as a nation of white people that was gradually infiltrated by blacks, the biological evidence seems to suggest that it was more like a black nation that was gradually infiltrated by whites.

    Source: Black Spark White Fire: Did African Explorers Civilize Ancient Europe? - Chapter 77. Black, White or Biologically African? Pg. 471




    Question: What is your basis for stating that the Ancient Egyptian statuary is "Somali-like" in appearance?

    Shomarka Keita: Best way to think of this is in terms of parallelism or microconvergent evolution. Somali males are predominantly of E group lineages; African in origin. Look for yourself at the Egyptian statuary for the architecture of faces if you trust the statuary, and look at Greek or Roman statuary. Go over the faces point by point, of course there is variability, but look for a distillation. Look at faces of Oromo, a range of Nilotic folk etc, and you might be able to see what I mean.

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    Egyptian Mural of Races

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    Skin sections showed particularly good tissue preservation, although cellular outlines were never distinct. Although much of the epidermis had already separated from the dermis, the remaining epidermis often was preserved well (Fig. 1). The basal epithelial cells were packed with melanin as expected for specimens of Negroid origin. In the dermis, the hair follicles, hair, and sebaceous and sweat glands were readily apparent (Fig. 2). Blood vessels, but no red blood cells, and small peripheral nerves were identified unambiguously (Fig. 3). The subcutaneous layer showed loose connective tissue fibers attached to the dermis, and fat cell remnants were observed.

    Source: Determination of optimal rehydration, fixation and staining methods for histological and immunohistochemical analysis of mummified soft tissues. Biotechnic & Histochemistry 2005, Vol. 80, No. 1, Pages 7-13

    The sources above indicate that the ancient Egyptians were a Black African people. You have DNA, artwork and histology of mummy skin indicating that they were dark-skinned and related to indigenous populations in the Sahara, Sudan and the Horn of Africa.

    Whether or not someone agrees on the ancient Egyptians being Black I don't see a reason why someone would denigrate African cultures and try to make the argument that Blacks are mentally inferior because they didn't achieve as much as Whites unless they were motivated by a racist ideological agenda. What purpose could such an argument possibly serve other than to promote racism?
     

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