Whites OBJECTIVELY Have Less Rights than Minorities

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  1. Renee

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    People who were victims of segregation are still alive and so are those who saw them as inferior human beings. The millennials aren’t half as bigoted which is a positive sign
     
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    No my husband is not wrong because I am talking about 35 years ago. 35 years ago I would look down on the trading floor and not see a black person and the women were secretaries.-But you are right now you see plenty of minorities doing that and it didn’t happen in a vacuum. My has trained an African-American guy who later opened his own firm and my husband helped set it up.
    When you go into a store do you get followed around? That’s white privilege. When you have a cab do you expect to get picked up without any problem? That’s white privilege. Do people view you with suspicion because of your race? That’s white privilege. I bet you don’t think there’s male privilege either
     
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    Forget racism. Let’s talk about Jim Crow laws in the south...those people are still alive and so are their children. Those laws define black people as inferior human beings. I guess you would think affirmative action is racist but I bet you didn’t think excluding women and blacks for centuries wasn’t. I am grateful to affirmative-action because it has helped my daughter and my students. How do you suggest leveling the playing field
     
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    So you believe that white males tend to succeed because they tend to take responsibility for the consequences of their actions and choices. But obviously you believe black people don’t. Racism is alive and well
     
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    You mean the white men who defined African-Americans as inferior human beings? I guess you don’t think that kind of bigotry doesn’t exist anymore because it became illegal
     
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    Except blacks only take responsibility when they are caught.
    Not all of them, some still don't.
     
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    Seems to me the Blacks need to show they are really equal or superior, and they can only to that through education, and behavior.
    The Asians sure showed the country what they are.
    even the Mexicans, who had the stereotype as lazy, are some of the hardest working people I ever met.

    why is it the blacks can't change their stereotype.

    I'll give you a hint. It has nothing to do with whitey,
    and they are the only ones who can change it.
     
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    Thank goodness for people like.you ..my workshops in prejudice awareness are still going on.
    Christian men stop raping, only when they’re caught. Is that ok?not all of them
     
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    Yes he is wrong and so are you

    There is no such thing as male privilege or white privilege

    Those are facts you cannot refute

    Yes I get followed around yes I expect to hey picked up


    Idiotic personal anecdotes prove nothing.
     
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    You’re part of the reason why they can’t! By the way African American middle class has grown tremendously despite people talking like you .its called prejudice..pre judging. You stereotype Asians in a positive way so they are viewed with the contempt of a bigot
     
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    Well there’s no arguing with someone who doesn’t believe there is a black prejudice. There is no arguing with someone who doesn’t understand the concept of defining black people as inferior for generations has an impact. And don’t tell me that I can’t refute facts.
    As a woman I didn’t have the opportunities men had when I grew up. That was male privilege. Males were able to go to the best networking colleges like Harvard and Yale. Women were denied access. I can give you tons of examples but it’s a waste of time. You think that because the laws change that peoples attitudes change immediately. You try and use “logic” but totally lack psychological insight
     
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    And I left that you call personal anecdotes as nothing. I guess that’s a white privilege thing.
     
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    Seems to me you are the bigot here.
    I live in Bellevue wa. A middle, to upper middle class community.
    we have more Asians here than black, but I do have black neighbors and friends..
    They have 2 parents, 2.4 kids, homeowners, employed, usually at Microsoft or another high tech. outlet.

    These people don't even express views like yours, they are too concerned with living their lives, raising their families, and fitting in with the neighborhood.
    The blacks in my neighborhood don't even associate with the inner city blacks, not even the ghetto blacks who live here with low income housing,
    almost like they are another race altogether.
    another giveaway is that they all speak English.
     
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    I never denied black prejudice and I know exists but that does not prove white privilege

    Your claims are unprovable and facts destroy them

    You have all the same rights as men in fact you have more rights then men BY LAW which is fact. Women had and have greater protections than men and that is fact.

    There is no such thing as male privilege or white privilege and that is fact you CANNOT refute

    The claim that there is such privilege is misandry and racist proving you are the one clining to ignorant prejudice..

    Facts and reality are rough but you are so against them
     
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    They are meaningless and evidence of nothing.

    That is a logic thing not a white thing as every intelligent person knows
     
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    How do you know what they express? . I live in an upscale interracial community and believe me your neighbors don’t talk to you about racism and for good reason. Do you really believe they are unaware of their color? I remember my neighbor laughing how people say what you’re saying which is,p basically you’re a credit to your race”.no one ever told me that
    Your neighbors who now can get jobs in high-tech jobs with the help of affirmative action couldn’t dream of that years ago. They are an example of people profiting from affirmative action and having opportunities they never had. I remember listening to Colin Powell saying had it not been for affirmative-action he would not be where he is today. So your neighbors don’t associate with black inner-city people? . I guess I have something in common with them I don’t associate with uneducated rednecks ...maybe we just don’t have anything in common. Prejudice ,,,sure
     
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    When millions of women gave personal experiences in the #me too movement, I’m sure it was just mere anecdotes to you
    I do have to laugh at your last line which is something I teach in my workshops. When people are insecure they do the “everyone knows” because they need to believe that everyone thinks is they do. I really think I am probably more intelligent than you and I know about racism a lot more than you do
     
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    You don't get into a 200 thousand dollar a year, high tech. job at Microsoft through affirmative action.
    You have to know what you are doing.
    Maybe as a janitor.
     
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    Well I guess since you’re so intelligent you believe that sexism and racism suddenly disappear because they become illegal Men had white affirmative action for centuries . Did it bother you? I remember telling my students about all the things that were denied to me because I was a female and they said, “I bet you were angry” and I told them I wasn’t because that’s just the way it was, but once your consciousness is raised there’s no going back and that’s when change happens. You’re just pissed that you have to share the pie that you enjoyed for centuries
    no I am not ignorant about prejudice especially since I’ve created a curriculum in New York City and give workshops in the subject all over the country. I really haven’t met that many people like you because most of the people I work with are teachers or high school students and they tend not to be as narrow minded
    An example my husband always talked about when he was a trader they would take him to golf courses...When he realize that women were not allowed he refused to go.
     
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    I never did the everyone knows thing.

    I said every intelligent person which is true.

    Yes since many many women like about rape and sexual assault the #metoo crap is anecdotal second hand tripe

    Which is incidentally why misandrists wish to do away with due process and start witch hunts like the Dems did with kavanaugh

    The facts still destroy your false claim s

    Brw you fibbed and Harvard accepted women in 1920

    More of your privilege lie shot down by facts
     
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    They probably knew which women.
     
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    Liberals in general, including African American Liberals and Female Liberals, blame the consequences of their actions and choices on everyone but themselves and white male privilege does exist.

    White male privilege is the better morals values ethics and principles white parents tend to teach their white male children.
     
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    There is no pie to share making your entire theory cartoon fiction.

    There was never pro male affirmative action.

    Men had certian jobs and women had others because of nature and choice.

    Women wanted jobs so men created jobs women can do and then women and minorities got affirmative action to avoid competition. While still demanding support from men

    You are as uninformed about history as you are the present
     
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    This is probably a good point that I never realized.
    When meeting a person, and evaluating him/her, these are traits you will notice, and have a profound effect on the outcome of your encounter.

    birds of a feather, flock together.
     
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    So you don't think inequalities, engineered artificially through discrimination, impact on decision making?
     

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