Who are the Nazis?

The Democrats are afraid of a Nazi takeover of the nation, they rant about it daily. But which party is most like the Nazis?

Read the Nazi political platform from the 1920's. This reflects the political face of Nazism presented to the German people and the world. It was the mask used to trick people into electing Nazis into power.

Read the 25 points and then decide which party (Democrat of Republican) is closest to the Nazis:

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm
Items such as:

1. every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood (a "living wage")
   
2. no individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community
3. nationalization of all trusts
4. profit-sharing in large industries
5. generous increase in old-age pensions
6. immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople (govt takeover of industry, oligarchy)
   
7. the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose (govt takeover of land)
   
8. the abolition of ground rents
9. ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare ("social justice", censorship, accomodation law)
10. the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. (govt run schools, arts, entertainment)
11. raise the standard of national health (govt run health care)
12. a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press (censorship)
13. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race (push religion aside)
14. the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations (total govt control of the nation)

Where socialism has a global outlook, Nazism keeps the policies but replaces the global outlook with one tailored to the post WW1 German people. It is literally National Socialism.
And obviously the standard socialist elements of globalism and of open borders are dropped. In that sense it reflects conservatism.

Does the Democrat party ("progressives") or the Republican party (conservatives) most reflect the Nazis?

 

One of the lamest lie narratives of the Left is that oligarchic states such as Nazi Germany and Fascist States such as Axis Italy are/were "right wing."

As a matter of fact and not opinion, any government comprised of a large, overarching central state is far more accurately left wing than right.

The absence of government is anarchy, in which the rights of individuals are unfettered by any government at all. That is the farthest point Right on a RATIONAL Left-Right continuum.

As government increases in size and power over the individual, it moves from that Right extreme to a center, the Constitutional Republic for example, and then Left towards statism, collectivism, autocracy, totalitarianism, etc., as points moving farther LEFT past the Republic.

The gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex has been allowed to get away with this kind of obvious, erroneous semantic chicanery for far too long.

In general, the larger and more powerful the government is as against the rights of the individual the more LEFT it is. The less powerful, the more RIGHT it is. Any other attempted continuum becomes rapidly inconsistent.

 

In my opinion what makes (#notall) Progressives similar to Nazis is their Identity Politics. Some of them see all men as oppressors.

Communists never engaged in eliminationist rhetoric toward any birth group. Even during WWII, Stalin forbade such rhetoric against ethnic Germans. Soviet population suffered a genocide from Nazis, yet USSR did not respond in kind.

 

I must add that Liberals do have a lot of good causes:

 

Even they had some good ideas.

The Holocaust makes The Nazis the Greatest Evil Throughout History. May they suffer for Eternity.

 

Nationalistic, uberethnocentric, white supremacist, cult of leadership, snuggling with corporations at expense of workers, Dictator Leader, anti-democracy, anti-voter, anti-immigrant

Yep, that's not the Democrats

 

A very perceptive point and one that has been continually misappropriated and misused by the Ultra Left in this country for a very long time. They were not "Right Wing" in the sense of promoting Conservative values. They were indeed promoting the very heart of Socialism on top of a clearly racist platform. To "the benefit of the community" did not include non-Germans. The standard for social acceptance began and ended with being of Aryan descent. Clearly, these people were 'Racial' Socialist. A point which should not be lost in history:



They espoused a structural Socialistic agenda, but it only included those of Hitler's "pure Aryan blood." Hitler, misappropriated the word "Aryan." He took it out of its original Native American context which did not mean separate based on race or ethnicity, but highlighted distinctions between Noble People within the broader community of Native Americans. Hitler, was a thief in this regard - stealing ideas that he never created and where he completely tortured the original meaning.

 

No, it does not make them the greatest evil throughout history. Not even close. That's more mainstream zionist propaganda. Zionists, were behind the death of countless millions of Africans during the North Atlantic Slave Trade and the Arabian Slave Trade. And, the untold number of millions who were slaughtered by invading Europeans, Arabians and Asians in Ancient Africa up through the 20th century is a truth never told by zionists and those who sympathize with them in completely baseless (false and made up) grounds. Good grief, European colonization of Africa alone accounts for hundreds of times more slaughtered Black People than anything Hitler ever did in Germany, relative to Jews. It is not even close, nor remotely fit for rational comparison - other than to show that there is no comparison.

The perpetual lies about the most put upon people in "world history" really does need to come to an end. There are no more destroyed people that have ever lived on this planet than Black People from the Motherland. They were the entire World's Population at one point. There was no one else (no Caucasian) anywhere on the face of the planet before their world was destroyed. For hundreds of thousands of years, they lived on this planet in relative peace and harmony. We don't know exactly how Hominid got here, but we do know that Caucasian today shared his DNA and Sub-Saharan Humans do not - they have no Neanderthal DNA in their genus and they do not have RH+ positive blood. Yet, all Caucasians, do. So, we know for a fact that Sub-Saharan Human originates from a different biological branch, not that of Hominid/Neanderthal/Caucasoid and eventually Caucasian - today's so-called Modern Human (Homo Sapiens Sapiens).

From the Hyksos down through European Colonizers, we are talking about a period that spans more than 3,668 years of the destruction of Black Civilization on this planet. How many millions? Who the heck knows - it must be in the 100s of millions by now.

6 million Jews? Over a hundred million Humans (and that number is probably extremely conservative)? The reason this World History is completely misunderstood is because the publishing houses that produce the textbooks studied in our school systems are predominantly owned by guess who? The very same people now claiming themselves to be the most abused people in "wurld" history. Not, so. Not even remotely, so.

 

Absolute anti-Semitic Nonsense.

 

Yup, more extreme ignorance of history and political philosophy from Conservatives. Nazis were right wingers, they locked up the Social Democrats and Communists first in Dacau. They wanted to create a vast racist land Empire based upon racial and cultural superiority. Their social programs weren't for the creating equality between all people, it was to elevate the German Aryan race and use them as an engine for a permanent war economy that served the Capitalists and Industrialists who sided with the Nazis. The Nazis merely coopted the language of the Left, in order to try and get a wider base, they were not interested in worker ownership of the means of production, they were Corporatist economically. Their sworn enemies were actual Socialists and Communist, who were led by a Jewish conspiracy to destroy western culture and civilization. The same crack pot conspiracies you will find from right wing extremists today, such as the shooter from Pittsburgh.

Nazis are Right Wing, get over it and get a real education.

 

That gosh darn Nazi right-wing massive government!

oh wait

 

Funny these modern antisemites think the Nazis were left wing.

 

I am not so sure I would put Nazi Germany under Hitler ahead of the Soviet Union or Communist China. While Hitler was more targeted in his genocide, Stalin was more of an "equal opportunity" murderer. I think overall, the numbers that Stalin killed outweigh what Hitler did. Hitler was pure evil and so was his regime, but Stalin was a bit more ruthless overall and ruled far more with an iron fist. Stalin also had a longer reign which allowed him to kill many more. If Hitler had more time, who knows how many more he would have killed.

The destruction of the kulak class by Stalin, alone, triggered the Ukrainian famine, during which 3 million to 5 million peasants died of starvation. That is staggering.

I have heard mixed reviews on treatment of prisoners after the war by the Soviet Union. Pro Soviet sites try and paint a warm picture of the labour camps and work they were forced to do while Pro German sites state they had a high rate of starvation and death, with less than 1 out 100 returning home. Even the Soviet archives after they were opened when the wall fell are incomplete.

One thing is for sure, man is a mean little animal. By far the meanest on the planet.

 

You do realize there is more to the Conservative tradition than the Anglo-American Liberal Conservative tradition? Right? Not all Conservativism is committed to Limited Government, Monarchal Absolutism was Conservative and *gasp* in favor of a strong central government. Fascism is a frustration with Liberal Democratic Parlimentarism, that a more decisive government unified behind a singular vision for a people should take control and actually get something done.

The Social Democrats and Communist Party of Germany were also in favor of a strong government, but the Nazis locked up all the Leftists in Concentration Camps, even before the Jews. Doh! Don't you hate it when your opinions are utterly out of alignment with reality?

 

Those Nazis really were big into letting the Jews own firearms legally! Those right wingers! lol

 

More anachronistic interpretation of Anglo-American Liberal Conservatism into Germany in the early 20th Century. You don't have an argument, so you make these flippant little comments as if they prove their point. Why not educate yourself further instead of embarrass yourself? I will never understand why so many are willingly ignorant.

 

No I find your argument hilarious. The biggest government of all, Nazi Germany, is a left wing paradise! You don't let your citizens have basic rights to defend themselves, the government controls all businesses...it's what you've always wished for (not you personally...just your hilarious party)

 

Please document your silly claim. Specifically, name the Democrats who express concern over your "Nazi takeover" every day. Links to reputable sources, please.

Meanwhile, actual, self-proclaimed Nazis in America do worship their endorsed candidate, Trump, as their "Ultimate Savior" but, even under Trump, they will not tale over America.

 

Exactly, Leftist sects/groups tend to compete with each other during the destabilization phase, then kill their political competition. Oh, you thought that because the Nazis locked up competing LWers that that makes them necessarily RW? And you claim that conservatives are ignorant of history? Adorable.

Yep, a big, autocratic state... LW by definition. More state collective control, more Left, less state control, more Right. It really is -that- simple in modern, accurate terms. Sorry you were indoctrinated into the unreal land of LW revisionism and semantic distortion. You can start the process of remedying that at any time, choice is yours.

More state control, more Left, less state control, more Right. Beneath that easy to understand framework of L-R continuum, the specifics really don't matter. More irrational, revisionist charlatanism.

Awww

 

A left wing paradise, where all the left wingers were locked up in Concentration Camps. Seek help.

 

And that's been the hardest point of the Third Position. It's hard for me to argue to the benefit of a Centralized government, without people saying "Hur durr, Holocaust". Yeah, well I'm not a racist serial killer. I just don't think the two party system works for anyone.

 

Another ignorant Conservative who thinks Liberal Conservatism from the Anglosphere is the totality of Right Wing thought. Is there a single honest and informed Conservative here? I have yet to interact with one.

 

You must be a left winger, right? Surely the gentlemen in this thread can see how leftist your ideas are?

 

Thank you for taking the time to write this. I’ve been saying for years whoever came up with those stupid political spectrum graphics was a masterful propagandist and has poisoned the minds of millions.

The other master stroke was using lazy terminology to convince everyone we are or should be a pure democracy.

Anyway, great post as is the OP.

 

More government control, more Left, less government control, more Right. Anarchy is on the far right side, totalitarianism on the left.

I'm not a conservative btw, just one among many of your intellectual betters here.