Who caused the division?

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  1. 21Bronco

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    Irrelevant trolling. Devoid of any facts whatsoever.
     
  2. Lucifer

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    Yep, keep playing that playbook. You only have a couple of months playing it.
     
  3. PatriotNews

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    Yes. I do run into a lot of stupid people.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ”If everyone around you is an ******* then the problem may not be with them”... Good and accurate saying
     
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    I think it's wokeism. People try to pass this off as a virtue but it's strictly self-serving so that other people will see the little woke individual as enlightened. The more people push against it the more they are called racist or Nazis for not buying into it. And thus the divide grows.
     
  6. PatriotNews

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    That is a strawman argument. I never said everyone around me is. Try looking up argument fallacies.
     
  7. cd8ed

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    It is an old saying, not an argument.
    Try again.

    And I will defer to your definitions on logical fallacies, you seem to have them mastered.
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Your question itself has caused the division

    And no, I am not speaking in riddles. Look how you couch the question in the paras above

    No one side is ever entirely right and no one side is ever entirely wrong, but you are acting as if that is the case and yours is the right side. That is how division comes about.

    Politics is the art of COMPROMISE

    At least you say you are not asking us to vote for Trump. That is a start.
     
  9. PatriotNews

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    There's an old saying, "a lot of dumb people around me used stupid argument fallacies". Really, it really is an old saying where I'm from.
     
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    First, not all Republicans (or in my case conservative) are racist. Only someone that is a MSM drone would think so.

    The problem is how you define racist. There is a poster on this site that has claimed that only whites are racist. They ignore racist programs such as Affirmative Action and school quotas. They also ignore organizations such as the Rainbow Coalition, BLM, and LA Rosa. The link provides a list of organizations that specifically cater to Blacks or people of color. None of them accept whites or work to help whites. Many of the colleges teach a course about White Privilege, and African American studies. There are Historical Black Colleges that still receive federal funding. Yet most colleges and universities actually have quotas for African Americans that exceed the 13% demographics in the US. Some universities/colleges have between 30 and 70% of African American Students. Yet any organization that caters to Whites are labeled white supremacy, no matter what their core values are.

    Back after I graduated high school, I was accepted as a student for Florida State University. I had a good (not great) SAT score, and I aced the entrance exam. But that year, the Democrat Governor signed an Executive order that Schools that accepted state funding, to include Pell Grants, would have to accept 30% of new students has to be African Americans from Urban High Schools. This EO allowed for students that had disqualifying scores on both the SAT/ACT and the school's entrance exam. My letter of acceptance was rescinded by the University. In other words, African American students that could not score high enough on the exams that all colleges accept, and could not pass the entrance exam got to go to Florida State, but I, who met the University's standards for acceptance, could not. Back then you could not sue for reverse discrimination. Now, things are slowly changing. Recently, the University of Georgia settled a lawsuit brought by two white people. They were denied entrance because of their race. The University settled with them for $55,000 each.

    The point is that there has been a double standards for African Americans. They are given advantages in percentages that far exceed their demographics that whites do not get. But the liberal community still claims that the African American community is under represented. They also claim that their is no justice for them. This is based on the fact a higher percentage of African Americans are in prison then whites. As a matter of fact, their percentage of incarcerated exceeds every racial statistic. No one has said that these people did not commit crimes. They only claim the fact that there are more of them in jail. I can not find, from reliable source, that supports the concept that all other races are not incarcerated for crimes that African Americans are.

    In the city that I live in, it is listed on the list of 25 cities with the highest number of murders per 1000. It is not surprising that this city is 76% African American. There is a street that I have to consistently travel that has prostitutes and drug dealers standing on a corner hoping to draw customers from those on their way to a military base in the next city over. Yet, the police will not do anything about it. I was going into a Chinese restaurant in that area, and a drug dealer was blocking the door. He said that he had what I needed. I asked him if he had my Chinese food, and he got pissed. The only reason that I was not assaulted was because there was a police officer sitting in the parking lot. To say that the police in the city are selective of which laws they enforce would be a gross understatement.

    This is why there is a divide in this country, and it has not gotten worse. At least on the part of conservatives. On the part of African Americans it has gotten worse. It is actually worse then back in the 60's which I did not think was possible. An associate professor at the University of Georgia that teaches African American studies said that the only way for things to get better is for whites to die. Strangely enough, he was neither fired or warned about the statement. Yet, white professors are being fired for openly supporting our President. Things will only get better when a small minority of African Americans stop their terrorist activities, and the majority of the race stops supporting these terrorists and stop making excuses for criminals within their race.
     
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    Maybe you should hold yourself in better company?
     
  12. PatriotNews

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    I would but they keep trolling me and stalking me.
     
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    What do you think you are doing? Because if you accuse others of doing the same thing you are doing... well thats just hypocritical...
    And with your avatar I know you wouldn’t do that while also using the lords image as a graven idol?
    Surely not!
     
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    He's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Whatever he does, the media will complain about. Every little thing could tip the election.

    So the only logical course under those circumstances to walk a fine line of moderation.

    If you listen to what the other side is saying, on some of these issues, doesn't that sound even worse to you?


    Isn't this a local government issue?
    You want the President to get involved?
    He's already taken a lot of flack for sending in federal troops into riot city areas, media complains, he looks bad.

    Why aren't you complaining about state governors, state governments, or the city councils in some of these big cities?
     
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    Okay bye bye.
     
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    :bye:
     

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