Who is the future of the GOP? MTG or Cheney?

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Who is the future of the GOP? MTG or Cheney?

  1. Liz

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  2. MTG

    8 vote(s)
    53.3%
  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More of those now than ever. Crickets.
     
  2. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    I think we would rather just elect a Democrat that was out of the closet than either of those two. Joe Manchin would be better than either of those two.
     
  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Au Contraire. The GOP is much smaller than they have been at almost any time before.

    They have purged themselves of all but True Believers, Total Bigots and Nuts and those are always vanishing minorities. The one good thing about the present situation is that there has never been a better time to get rid of the GOP once and for all.
     
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    I didn't like him either but I sure liked the way he handled the job. Terrible personality. braggadocious, self centered, quick to blame. Not a pleasant man. But he put his country first and took very little guff from others. It wouldn't have occurred to him to ask the United Nations to tell him whether or not we are a racist people. It wouldn't have occurred to him to be concerned that the Taliban failed to develop an inclusive government. He wouldn't have allowed the open border we have today. He wouldn't have left Afghanistan in the manner we did. He was a serious spender to be sure but he would gasp at the proposed spending that is on the table now. I miss him.
     
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    I couldn't figure how we elected anyone like him and laughed at the idea we did. Then he went to work and I watched. He was good at cutting corners and getting to an issue rather than dance through the red tape blockades set up. He looked at a problem, decided on a solution and set about to put it in place. He was very good for America and I came to that conclusion grudgingly. I miss him too and see nobody else on the horizon that will offer that same outsider honesty in our government.
     
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    Ben Sasse? Conservative? Since when?
     
  7. Pycckia

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    In that case, I'll stick to Greene.
     
  8. independentthinker

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    Rather narrow minded, aren't you?
     
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    Love those DEMONcrats

    Such social consciousness
    until it is time to pay for it.


    "Working people live barely better than welfare recipients", Jimmy Carter.​

    Working people suffer inflation more.
    And the Republican - lite , Biden / Clintons sorts see to it that no
    uber wealthy suffer over it.


    Moi :oldman:
    Left The Democratic Party circa 1968
    Hardly the party of FDR / Truman today





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  10. Lil Mike

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    Well probably not the next...but she'll be running at some point.
     
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    How many times have I heard that crap over the last 50 years? The GOP is still around, winning elections at all levels of government.
     
  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You'd think people would learn but I guess there's a certain charm to telling some people they're better than everyone else
     
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    Republican elected in conservative Nebraska.
     
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    You have the party faithful, who the candidates are doesn't matter. History shows those who identify with either major party will vote on average for their party's candidate 92% of the time. That leaves independents, swing voters who most don't pay much attention to the daily grind of politics or even government. They're not political junkies as many other things have a higher priority to them in their life. Many won't pay one bit of attention to politics until an election nears.

    To them, elections are like beauty contests, popularity contests, they vote their likes and dislikes of the candidates, their perceptions of the candidates. Folks usually won't vote for someone they dislike, dislike as a person. Hence Trump losing independents 54-41 in 2020. I would say Trump's obnoxious and rude personality over rode politics and policy to many independents, swing voters.

    Interesting sideline here, those voters who voted against a candidate in 2020, not for a candidate, any other candidate would do, I call them the anti-voters as they're not voting for anything, just against a candidate. Biden won those voters 68-30 over Trump.

    https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results

    2016 was the opposite, the anti-voters went for Trump 50-39 over Hillary.

    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/national/president

    One could say both elections were decided by those who didn't vote for anyone or anything, just against someone.
     
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    Sounds like a reasonable analysis. One thing I know for sure is that voting never fixes anything. The deep state does what it does in its normal left wing fashion no matter who is "in power".
     
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    Comes from handing all the power over to unelected bureaucrats safely ensconced in their little administrative fiefdoms.
     
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    Times Have changed. Neither party is the same as it was in years past.
     
  18. fmw

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    Nobody turned anything over to them. The government is too large and incompetent to manage effectively. So it goes basically un-managed.
     
  19. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A president is there for 4 years, maybe 8. He appoints political heads of departments and agencies. But once a president leaves, they also leave. You have all these non-elected civil servants, civil service types who are in these departments for 30, 40 years or more. Long before a president comes into office and long after a president leaves. They're the ones who run the government.
     

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