Who is the most evil person who ever lived

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Aleksander Ulyanov, Mar 4, 2014.

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Who is the most evil person to ever live

  1. Adolf Hitler

    27 vote(s)
    18.4%
  2. Joseph Stalin

    21 vote(s)
    14.3%
  3. Pol Pot

    17 vote(s)
    11.6%
  4. Genghis Khan

    9 vote(s)
    6.1%
  5. Other

    73 vote(s)
    49.7%
  1. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nationalism. The scourge of modern man.
     
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    Probably so, but unless man as a whole undergoes a revolution in consciousness, nationalism is the only defense against the base side of human nature. And obviously this base side is very powerful, and it has been with us for as long as man has been here.

    If we do not undergo a revolution in human consciousness, and we do as the Marxist tried to do, by force structuring a society, a system which is in opposition to human nature, failure is inevitable. Human nature will corrupt any idealistic system forced upon a People. For you may has well try to force a hungry lion to lay down beside a lamb and not harm it.

    I am an economic nationalist and do not mind admitting it. I think that any nation state should put the economic interests of the citizens above the interests of other nations, as long as there is a core of morality involved. To willingly starve out another nation so your own people can live in luxury has its limits. To exploit the resources of the citizens of another nation in order that you own people live in luxury is not acceptable to me. So there are limits here dictated by simple and basic morality. And yet to structure a globalist driven economy which only enriches the boys at the top, with the help of gov't, and to be against this is not nationalism. It transcends that, IMO. For someone has to look out for our own people, over the interests of those rich and powerful elites whose wealth can never be enough to satiate them. And all too often if one promotes one's own people over the interests of the elites the nationalism card gets played, as if economic globalism is the only alternative to nationalism. For the globalism that we know is not a social globalism but an economic globalism which utilizes slave labor, exploiting the poor where they can be found, and devastating one's own people, economically. For after all, the device, the tool which feeds a people is the economic model and how it is structured. And ours is no longer structured to provide the needed resources for the most people here in america. And so, if the economic model no longer provides, then who provides for human beings? Taxpayers? And yet under globalism you have a system which is removing taxpayers from the equation, and all that is eventually left in large part are the top dogs. But then you have the right side screaming that the rich are paying most of the taxes and this is somehow wrong. LOL Yet the middle class once paid the most of the taxes, and only when the income started leaving the middle and going to the top, did the top start paying most of the taxes. LOL And it was the elites who restructured our economic model with the help of gov't in their own self interests. But I have digressed far off base...
     
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  3. Thingamabob

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    CAPITALISM – SOCIALISM – COMMUNISM
    They are all good. The reason for so much turmoil in the world is not in the choice of political philosophy but because each of those philosophies has been corrupted.

    In order to eradicate corruption, it would require the population to rise and compel their leaders/politicians to clean house. But the reason citizens have been unable to do this is because their government is holding them hostage. Some nations achieve that by the use of religion. The US uses nationalism. If America does not demolish nationalism the country will never be free of its corruption.
     
  4. CCitizen

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    Most ly great exaggerations. In Vietnam and North Korea, most civilian losses were from US military action.
     
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    They killed all those people in the name of Christianity...or they just happened to be Christian?
     
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    Yep,

    Read this book, for specific details:

    The Black Book Of Communism:

    http://www.conflicts.rem33.com/images/books/THE BLACK BOOK OF COMMUNISM.pdf

    Who said you had to hide them?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide (Pol Pot was a socialist)

    23,745 mass graves have been found so far.
     
  7. ziggyfish

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    Nope,

    North Korea:

    http://www.worldpolicy.org/blog/2012/02/06/genocide-north-korea
    http://victimsofcommunism.org/north-korea-under-communism-1948-2014/

    Vietnam:

    From Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
     
  8. CCitizen

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    These numbers may be exaggerated. Maybe 200,000 did perish under Communist Rule in Vietnam. But US military action is responsible for over a Million civilian losses in Vietnam.
     
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    They say if you shove your head deeper in the sand, you can't hear anything. Have you tried that?
     
  10. Mr_Truth

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    See my previous post or google Hitlers declaration re that very question - he as a Christian did it in the name of his Christian god. Stalin was a Christian and said he was doing it for the greater good.
     
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    How many lives did the US save due to the fight against the communist north backed by china and the USSR? Communists already had kill 800k of its OWN PEOPLE before the vietnam war. Just imagine how many southerners the communists would have killed.
     
  12. Thingamabob

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    What are you talking about? Vietnam was getting ready for Democratic elections. The US didn't save lives. They murdered Vietnamese, Cambodians, and Laotians. By Democratic elections (the ones the US sabotaged and prevented from taking place) there probably would have been no war. Get some facts for Christ's sake.
     
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    Overall in Korea and Vietnam, USA killed about three million civilians.
     
  14. Thingamabob

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    And when you consider that nearly all of those incidents were the consequences of America's illegal invasion & occupation of legitimate sovereign states .... then you'd have to include the several million innocent soldiers who were merely in the service of national defence. There are a whole lot of similarities between the policies of the US and the misdeeds of the Nazis.
     
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    Looks like LBJ has become the front runner as the most evil person who ever lived.
    Still waiting to see if the JFK files contain anything to implicate LBJ somehow being involved as was rumored by some at the time.
     
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    Not only "at the time" but still today. There is an overwhelming about of evidence pointing in that direction.
     
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    I'm gonna go with Eve... where do you all think the word "evil" comes from anyway? :)
     
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    The Joker!
     
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    I assume that the Poll involves actual people, not fictional villains. If you had to chose from the existing list which individual would you choose.
    I'm just curious.
    Of course you don't have to even answer this Post.
     
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    Some people can display actions that are evil beyond imagination practically. My idea would be one that effects a greater # closer to home. It would have to be George Soros.
     
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    Thanks, I chose Stalin because I was trying to work within the confines of the poll but you're not the first person to mention George Soros so I do some research on him.
     
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    I did some cursory research on George Soros but couldn't find anything that would put him in the same league as Stalin.
    What am I missing
     
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    Soros is a contemporary. That's all. Stalin was an evil one.
     
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    Marx.
     
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