Who is ( was) a better potus? Obama or Trump

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Who is ( was) a better potus? Obama or Trump

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Donor

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    You left out the best!

     
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  2. Sallyally

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    Comparing fish and eggs.
    “Now, Trump’s vocabulary is simpler. He repeats himself over and over, and lurches from one subject to an unrelated one, as in this answer during an interview with the Associated Press last month:

    “People want the border wall. My base definitely wants the border wall, my base really wants it — you’ve been to many of the rallies. OK, the thing they want more than anything is the wall. My base, which is a big base; I think my base is 45 percent. You know, it’s funny. The Democrats, they have a big advantage in the Electoral College. Big, big, big advantage. … The Electoral College is very difficult for a Republican to win, and I will tell you, the people want to see it. They want to see the wall.”“
    https://www.statnews.com/2017/05/23/donald-trump-speaking-style-interviews/
     
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  3. Bowerbird

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    I’ll raise you an anonymous

     
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  4. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Donor

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    there was zero passion, talent or really even effort involved in the making of this video.

    you can find better!
     
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  5. Bowerbird

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    Yours was a Loop!

    Okay how about a bipartisan one!

     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Donor

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    Several loops, synchronized, with (afaict) original music.

    This one at least had some effort and talent put in it, and is enjoyable :)
     
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    Obama, like Trump only controlled congress for 2 years... it is what it is

    what has Trump done to stop the fed, Trump claims we have the best economy ever, but interest rates are not rising and the fed is still dumping billions into the economy to keep it afloat
     
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    My acidic criticism of Obama does not imply blanket-approval for all that Trump is doing with the economy -- not at ALL.

    His 'tax-cut' gave me back about $1,000.... Thrilling! But, as you accurately point out, by jawboning the Fed into crushing interest rates at a time when the 'market' needs to get the hell OFF its post-recession 'training-wheels', and we need to quit flooding the world with huge piles of new, 'imaginary' dollars, I'm losing multiple-thousands of dollars in savings accounts!

    For me, as far as the economy goes, it's 'shades-of-grey'. Trump is at least trying to get all the bums, parasites, and bust-out's off welfare and back to work! He's at least trying to stop the criminal Chinese theft of trillions of dollars worth of intellectual property and unfair competitive practices in the world marketplace. Obama? He did what the Fed told him to do, handed out more welfare goodies of different kinds, and did nothing else of any note at all....
     
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  9. Moriah

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    :):)
    Sounds like an interesting book. May I recommend a book for you to read? "The Autobiography of Malcolm X" by Malcolm X with Alex Haley. If you read this book you will understand why there is no such race as "Negro". Malcolm said, and I quote, "There is no country called Negro. So, therefore there is no race called Negro. That word was invented by the White man". That's what Malcolm said.
     
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    My gut instinct tells me this. Obama did good overall, some things were bad yes but overall pretty good. I didn't feel safe about the economy, but at the very least I felt confident enough in a better future. Trump doesn't give the promise of a better future, he doesn't instill me with confidence. He reeks of the guy who thinks because things are going well for him, it is going well for everyone else. I think the best example of this is on PF itself. There's easily more hatred and filth here now than there was 4 years ago.
     
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    You are right, and so was Malcolm Little... there is no country called "Negro". Moreover there is no country called "Oriental", either. And although there is a mountain range called the "Caucasus", there is no country called, "Caucasian".... Nevertheless, there are, of course, three distinct racial classifications within the human race, as you surely do know (deep down inside, below the "SJW" level).

    And, some geneticists maintain that there are actually five races! In addition to Caucasian, Oriental (a.k.a, 'East-Asian'), and Negro (or, 'Negroid'), there is also research that supports the hypothesis that the 'Amerind" (American Indians) are a separate race from the Orientals... and, that the "Aborigines" are a separate race from the Negros!

    It is likely that if mankind doesn't destroy himself completely, we'll all interbreed with each other, and in a thousand years from now there will be only one race -- a mixture of all of the existing ones we know today. Imagine! One race of people -- who can excel at everything from athletics to higher-math....

    Anyway, back on topic... as far as I can tell, Trump is a measurably better president than Obama was, regardless of what race each of them is descended from....
     
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    Obama was a giant FRAUD and Con artist and loser as a POTUS

    Trump is doing great thing. I know you just heard about his new NAFTA that passed
     
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    OBAMA = F
    Trump- A

    Bush- D-
    Clinton- solid C
     
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    Not ratified by Canada yet.
     
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    They will, I assume. The deal is good for all 3 nations. I hope they do
     
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    There is not a snowball's chance in hell that Trump is inching us towards WW3.

    Your gal, Hillary, wanted an air war with Russia in the skies over Syria. She was bat sh-t crazy, and she never saw a war she didn't like in her entire career.

    Trump's track record has been ending wars and staying out of new ones.
     
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    Which war did he end?
     
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    HE ENDED ISIS !!!! When everyone else did ZERO
    It was Trump and Putin
     
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    He stopped Assad from using chemical weapons against his people. He finished the war against ISIS in Iraq and Syria. He worked out an agreement with Turkey to protect the Kurds. He has opened negotiations with North Korea and created a relationship with its leader. He is also trying to negotiate a peace agreement with the taliban in Afghanistan. And, in the immediate aftermath of the missile attack by Iran on our bases in Iraq, President Trump said he would like to work out a new nuclear deal with Iran, and he complimented the people of Iran, and he invited Iran to live in peace among the community of nations. There is much that is undone, and success is not assured, but he is trying.

    Compare that to Hillary's track record. She and Obama were the architects of the war against Libya and Syria, and she was willing to confront the Russians in the skies over Syria, a military conflict over nothing of value against the other major nuclear power in the world. She was the most irresponsible leader in American history.

    Trump's record is that he will be tough where necessary, but he is constantly looking for ways to achieve peace.
     
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    nice projector ya got there.
     
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    hahahaha! He made one friggin ROE change and let the strategy Obama put in place run its course. Yep He is a friggin' military and diplomatic mastermind. No wonder you love him so.
     
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    This is one of the funniest post I have read in a long time.

    Please continue.
     
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    Um . . . most of that had nothing to do with racism. Perhaps next time look up the actual definition.
     
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    Odemon did zero vs Isis
    He was a loser
     
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    Trump smashed them and killed tens of thousands !!!
     

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