Who Killed Epstien?

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    And Epstein's lawyers were very good at negotiating plea deals.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is completely inaccurate.
     
  3. Lesh

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    10 years ago was 2009.
    Epstein was engaging in this pedophile behavior with lots of rich buddies for years prior to that...when he was good buddies with his neighbor Trump
     
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    Perhaps.

    “But what they also did not see was the fact that, before anyone was going after Epstein, President Trump took action against him.

    And is was the attorney of some of Epstein’s victims that told the courts that Trump, before he was president, took the action.

    “Epstein was barred from President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Fla., ‘because Epstein sexually assaulted an underage girl at the club,, according to court documents,’” The Washington Post reported.

    “I learned through a source that Trump banned Epstein from his Maralago [Mar-A- Lago] Club in West Palm Beach because Epstein sexually assaulted an underage girl at the club,” Fort Lauderdale lawyer Bradley Edwards’ said."
    THE FEDERALIST, Trump Banned Epstein From Mar-a-Lago Years Ago, Here’s Why…, By Carmine Sabia, July 7, 2019.
    https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/trump-banned-epstein-mar-lago-years-ago
     
  5. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    No, it is just a slight exaggeration.
    It certainly does not require "proof" to prosecute.
     
  6. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe Clinton and Trump are into little girls, I'm not.
     
  9. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WOW....I had no idea that law enforcement and justice employees break their laws to eliminate justice...Please enlighten me with data.
     
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    Trump already made it clear, he liked women not girls and he liked women with big boobs.

    Bill likes anything that doesn't have a penis and testicles.
     
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    Here is how it works with the social justice warriors, if one of the victims states that Donald Trump never had sex with any of the women, then she is a liar, but if she says that any prominent democrat did, especially Clinton, well then, she's a liar. There is only one conclusion that any democrat will ever accept and that is that Donald Trump and Donald Trump alone was the only other person beside Epstein that ever touched one of the underage girls and was the only male to ever step foot on the island, over 1000 times. In fact it was Bill Clinton that tried to rescue the women a dozen times no doubt.
     
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    Who killed Epstein?

    Who cares...good riddance.
     
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    Do you think its okay for "law enforcement and justice employees" to break the laws if they think it will advance justice? And do you deny that they do that?
     
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    Someone that important doesn't just die because some ****nuts at a prison are incompetent.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No and No...and from what I can tell they don't, which is why I asked for the data you used to make your claim.

    Care to share it now?
     
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    It is entirely possible that he was "allowed", encouraged, even assisted to commit suicide. A matter of "We need him dead, and he wants to kill himself. Win-win!"
     
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    It is sadly telling that now Barr and company are slamming the prison and an interesting $10,000 bonus has arisen to increase the staff that was apparently lacking.

    "Well, we didn't have enough guards to guard."
     
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    i'm anxiously awaiting the 'discovery' of an epstein suicide note implicating trump for everything wrong in the universe... found by a batsh*t krazy nutjob...
     
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    I believe that you know that prosecutors routinely withhold exculpatory evidence they have collected from the defense. Are you okay with that?
     
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    I thought of this when I heard Barr expressing his shock and outrage over Epstein's alleged suicide.

     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No...as that is not what you claimed.
     
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    I think he was murdered.

    Although it is far from unlikely that an old man who is about to be exposed to the world as guilty of the most monstrous crime decides to take his life. Not even if he is on suicide watch since police might as well ignore such a prick and let him end his life.

    But, I just think that Epstein knew too much. Too many celebrities, politicians and high profile lawyers and officers had probably been his clients and too many careers were thus at risk. So, they just decided to kill him.

    Normally I would not want to say this and I really have to make sure I do not bite my tongue as I do it, but... I am sad that he died.

    Where are Wikileaks when you need them?
     
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    To investigate the murder of Jeffrey Epstein, Trump put his best man on it, his personal lawyer, William Barr, who doubles as the attorney general.

    Epstein knew an astonishing number of rich, famous and powerful people, and had photos to prove it. He also claimed to know a great deal about these people, some of it potentially damaging or embarrassing, including details about their supposed sexual proclivities and recreational drug use.

    One of them was Donald Trump. Trump attended Epstein-hosted events in New York and Florida, and Epstein patronized the Mar-a-Lago Club. In 2002, Trump even gave a remarkable on-the-record comment about Epstein to a New York magazine journalist, calling him “terrific” and adding that he “likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

    Virginia Roberts Giuffre said in a deposition that she was working as a spa attendant at Mar-a-Lago in 2000 when she was approached by Epstein’s longtime friend, Ghislaine Maxwell, about giving massages to the wealthy investor, who owned a mansion in Palm Beach not far from the Trump resort.

    Barr said he was “appalled” by Epstein’s death and that “We will get to the bottom of what happened." Very appropriate words.

    He placed the blame on one of the most respected federal prisons in the United States, the Metropolitan Correctional Center, saying that there were “serious irregularities” at MCC.

    Yeah, sure.

    “Any co-conspirators should not rest easy,” Barr said. “The victims deserve justice and they will get it.”

    Give it a week, maybe two, and this will all blow over.
     
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    There ain't gonna be a note left behind that implicate the Clintons or anybody else.
     
  25. Ddyad

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    I assumed that after NiFong, Weissmann, the McMartin Preschool crisis and other exposed witch hunts everyone was aware of widespread prosecutorial misconduct.

    Prosecutorial misconduct is underreported for obvious reasons, but the amount of misconduct that has been discovered is very disturbing.

    "What little evidence we do have indicates that prosecutorial misconduct is a serious problem. A 2003 study by the Center for Public Integrity, for instance, found over two thousand appellate cases since 1970 in which prosecutorial misconduct led to dismissals, sentence reductions, or reversals. Another study of all American capital convictions between 1973 and 1995 revealed that state post-conviction courts found “prosecutorial suppression of evidence that the defendant is innocent or does not deserve the death penalty” in one in six cases where the conviction was reversed. Other scholars and journalists have also documented widespread prosecutorial misconduct throughout the United States."

    The Yale Law Journal, The Myth of Prosecutorial Accountability After Connick v. Thompson: Why Existing Professional Responsibility Measures Cannot Protect Against Prosecutorial Misconduct, By David Keenan, Deborah Jane Cooper, David Lebowitz & Tamar Lerer, 25 OCT 2011.
    https://www.yalelawjournal.org/foru...nnot-protect-against-prosecutorial-misconduct
     

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