Who says that Russia is our enemy, --and why are they saying it?

Although IMO it should be common sense that the US's electoral process not be influenced by foreign entities, in actual fact it appears to have been for some time, perhaps most notably in the large contributions to the Clinton "Foundation" by Saudi Arabia.

Because of the above, it appears to me that much of the cacophony against the Trump camp in their apparently minimal contact with Russians prior to Trump's election is being justified by the basic assumption that Russia is an "enemy". This assumption harks back to the post-WWII days when Russia gobbled up much of Eastern Europe...but in actual fact, the renewed interest in perceiving Russia as an "enemy" seems to have arisen
as a result of the interests of Saudi Arabia and Israel, which have a mixture of regional religious control issues and economic interests which are in competition with the interests of Russia.

IMO Russia does have some security and economic interests that could be seen as in competition with the US.. Like the US, it prefers to have "buffers" around its borders made up of countries that are friendly toward it, but the countries of interest to it are either contiguous to it or have a strong effect on those that are. Russia also has had a historical need for decent cold weather ports, one of which is in the Crimea. Additionally, with a large infrastructure in a large but often frozen land, it has a need for a decent and dependable tax income on business, which is difficult to achieve if it is under sanctions for maintaining its interests in the Crimea.

The US, on the other hand, in its most recent history, has been in many ways taking its own bordering countries for granted,or even alienated them in some ways, while focusing on other, far-flung areas on the planet...and lately there has been tacit admission by some sectors that global domination is the goal.

My question then has to be, who is the real enemy here--an important nation trying to preserve its own natural interests, or a cabal within the US that is bent on demolishing anything and anyone that stands in the way of their grasping and egomaniacal desires?

Anyone that sees how dangerous is a "one world government" led by any one country or organization would IMO welcome the input of power groups safely apart from the above, irrespective of where, even as the United States of America was glad to accept assistance from the French in its battle for liberation from England in the 1700's.

 

Yes, the real enemy can be found amongst your fellow americans.

Wait, I guess they aren't real americans or else they'd think exactly like you do.

Russia is your friend - after all they helped Donnie get elected now didn't they?

Sadly, I think you are actually serious.

 

In the last 10 years, Russia has:

Reinitiated nuclear bomber flights near our border
Armed terrorist groups we are currently fighting
Invaded a US ally
Seized sovereign territory from a nation on track to become a member of NATO and then initiated and supported a civil war in same country
Threatened the sovereignty of our NATO allies

But no. Clearly they are our friends.

 

They are one of our competitors, not enemies.

There are two sides to the Crimea/Ukraine mess, and the US seems to have violated a post-WWII agreement with Russia to leave that area neutral.

Additionally, US influence seems to have been the initial cause of destabilization, and now Monsanto is salivating over raping the Ukraine's rich and unspoiled farmland with its poison. Biden's son got a high level job over there out of the whole disaster.

 

Russia IS an enemy in my book.... not in legal sense of course as we aren't at war, but an enemy nontheless.

Colluding with Russia to harm the US would be wrong and likely criminal, using legitimately obtained Russian info to defeat Hillary and America-hating libs she represents is legal, legitimate, moral and patriotic. Lest we forget that Hillary was digging dirt on Trump in Ukraine and somehow there was no media/liberal hysteria about her "collusion".

That being said, in time of peace who's enemy and who's friend is in the eye of the beholder, it's merely a personal opinion which has no bearing on the application of law.

 

They are not our friends. They do not have America's best interests to heart. Their attack on our democracy could be considered an act of war.

 

Anybody who would consider Russia "not an enemy" is clearly delusional.

Case closed. End of story.

 

More accurately during the past eight tears during the Obama administration.

Really ?
Care to name which "terrorist" groups that Russia armed ?
Sure couldn't have been Al Qaeda or ISIS, it was Obama who armed them.

Which American ally did Russia invade ?

Was it England, Germany, Canada, Australia, Japan, South Korea, ?????

Countries that are not an American ally, Mexico, Ukraine, Vietnam, India, China, basically most of the worlds countries.

Countries that use to be American allies but are no longer an American ally. Philippines, Egypt.

Wouldn't that be a violation of the agreement between Russia and the USA that officially ended the Could War and allowed the reunification of Germany that no expansion of NATO would be allowed ? I believe that was the agreement made between President G.H. Bush and President Mikhail Gorbachev in December of 1993.

Exactly witch two American Presidents violated that agreement ? That's an easy one to answer.

 

Is that a Gen. George Patton quote from WW ll ?

 

I'd replace American liberals for Russians any day of the week.

 

And attacked our Democracy with their cyber attacks during the last election

 

Sadly you would. Ever consider moving to Moscow?

 

Of course you would.

 

That sounds like a win/win for everyone. They get the autocracy that they apparently crave so much and can even hate on minorities w/o having to worry about being denounced for it.

 

In all fairness I'd replace American liberals for just about anything..

 

There is your treason...go live in Russia. Putin doesn't allow liberals in his government, you'd love it.

 

What American changed their vote due to the Russian's taking an interest? Why can't we trace the alleged help coming from Putin above some lawyer licensed to practice law in the USA?

She claims to never have worked for Putin.

 

If there is a country that claim to be liberal, Russia is it.

 

If you hurry, you can catch the next flight to Moscow.

 

If you only had a clue to your lack of reason....if that was the case, Putin would have been for Hillary. I'd draw you a picture, but I'd have to borrow your crayons.

 

Funny innit how Muslims who have attacked us are our best buddies, per Democrats, yet the Russians whom never attacked us ... ever, not once, are our enemies. Funny innit?

 

There was a day when you could not take off from an American airport and land at Moscow. Thank you Ronald Reagan for making it all happen.

 

cy·ber·at·tack
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noun
noun: cyber-attack

1. an attempt by hackers to damage or destroy a computer network or system.

Exactly which Russian cyber attacks are you referring too.

Breaking into a computer system and conducting some snoop and poop mission seeing who's on the voters rolls is not a cyber attack.

Hacking Podesta's e-mails or hacking into the corrupt DNC e-mail servers is not a cyber attack, it's just theft.

Still no proof that it was the Russians who hacked into the DNC e-mail servers. It could have been an inside job, likely a Bernie supporter who worked for the DNC and was whacked on the streets of D.C. or maybe even the CIA. And since the DNC paid CrowdStrike $120,000 maybe the DNC told CrowdStrike to blame it on the Russians ? Sounds like something the DNC would do.

The DNC refused the FBI access to their e-mail server and still do today.
All we have is CrowdStrike word to believe that it was the Russians. But CrowdStrike has a credibility problem in the past of getting it right.

Until the DNC allows the FBI access to their e-mail servers we will never know who actually hacked into the DNC server.

Now the DNC has had over a year to wipe their server clean with either a cloth or BleachBit and goto Home Depot to buy a hammer.

Now cyber attacks is something different and Russia has been attacked by more cyber attacks than the USA.

The CIA and the governments of Russia, UK, China, North Korea, etc. are all able to launch a cyber attack along with thousands of geeks who don't have a real life and have nothing better to do.

 

I used to be a Democrat myself and admit that at the time, I too would talk just as you talk. Being bitter is no solution.

Look, I realize the mantra to support Democrats is to constantly launch bitter and often nasty attacks on posters, but my claim over Russia really upset you. Are you not feeling well?

We have no clue who Putin wanted. Putin had done business with Hillary and maybe she did something wrong ... or maybe it was right for Putin. We don't know. The media is too busy looking only at trump trying to drag him down. Trump won't fall. Never.

 

Might as well thank him for tripling the national debt, and his treason for going behind the back of congress during Iran/Contra, and selling chemical weapons to Iraq, and selling missiles to Iran, and for giving a billion dollars worth of stinger missiles to the Taliban. Your Raygun god is dead, and has been reincarnated as a peasant in Syria to pay his Karma.