"Who's gonna pay for Medicare for all?" is either stupid or disingenuous

BOTTOM LINE -Canadians live longer 82.3 yrs vs 78.6 USA, and have better outcomes than americans on many levels...and we do it for less $

 

I even gave you the court ruling showing you were wrong, lol.

Nowhere did I claim otherwise.

Mortgages have not skyrocketed. They are at historic lows. Medicare is not a commodity. It is a single payer system of paying for healthcare. Student loans are skyrocketing, because colleges inflate tuition costs.

I’m sorry that you made an incorrect claim, and got called on it. But that doesn’t make that go away. The government says guns are a right. They control/regulate them. Prices have not skyrocketed.

 

The data clearly shows single payer systems provide better care than we do, at a fraction of the cost. No amount of foot stomping on your part will make the data go away.

 

They make their financial choices.
Me subsidizing them because they waste tons of money is not my responsibility

 

Oh, you finally figured out what infant mortity is and can now demonstrate the causal relationship between single payer, life expectancy and infant mortality?

 

and we can never run out of insurance nor do we have pre-existing condition issues...

and to dispel the wait time myth, urgent procedures are dealt with immediately they move to the head of the line...my brother took ill on a Monday vomiting blood...Tuesday at the walk-in-clinic the physician booked him into the hospital for an urgent colonoscopy on the Thursday, cancer...Friday he underwent surgery and lost a third of his colon...he's still cancer free 8 years later.

 

Asked and answered

 

I guess that was an extreme case, an anecdotal evidence.
In general people do go to dentists in UK, and they pay for the service.

 

A causal relationship is not in there. Just left expectancy.
But since you're brilliant maybe you can show where the causal relationship is established

 

And now a strawman

 

Does the study establish causation?

 

Everything you can't answer is a strawman.
Why dont you tell the teacher again?

 

It is apparently rather common.

“An analysis of 2,500 dental practices on the NHS Choices website has revealed half were not accepting new adult NHS patients, and two-fifths were turning children away. The British Dental Association said the figures reflected an "emerging crisis" in dental care in England.”

THE SUN, ROOTS MANOEUVRE Couple forced to pull their OWN teeth out because they couldn’t see an NHS dentist
Rebecca Brearey and Nick Oldroyd performed the DIY surgery after knocking back some stiff drinks as an anaesthetic, By Andrea Downey, Digital Health Reporter
6th September 2017. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/44043...-out-because-they-couldnt-see-an-nhs-dentist/

 

You cant speak for them. Only you.
What are your cost barriers?

 

What is wrong to be protected from predatory practices of health insurance.
I do not see anything wrong with Obamacare. Of course it would be nice to have a public option, but Obama could not make it.
Also Obama's push to open more medical schools to increase number of doctors was defeated by Medical Cartel.
You are making money from the artificial shortage of medical providers, that is why you are against any changes.
But people need those changes, because they are dying.

 

Did I claim it did?

 

Yea, they are trying to adapt an U.S. system by creating an artificial shortage.
But anyone can go to the private dentist, it is not prohibited in UK.

 

No, just the if’s you make up and attribute to me.

Huh?

 

I have told you many times, and I have posted numerous links where the system is explained.
e.g. https://fee.org/articles/the-medical-cartel-is-keeping-health-care-costs-high/
In 1997 as part of the Balanced Budged act the congress declared a cap on medical residencies.
Since no other way to get a license other then go to medical residency, the U.S. Congress effectively manages the licenses for the doctors.
As a result the health care is very expensive and people cannot get enough medical care due to artificial shortage.

 

dentistry isn't like healthcare(it should be) in many countries if you haven't got the cash you can't go to the dentist and not all employers have insurance plans, this includes the US...

 

That's a cap on what they pay for not number allowable
It's not my job to subsidize you by paying for residents with tax dollars


The ACGME accredits residency slots btw

 

Exactly right, but people who are against health care will bring anything in the attempt to protect their excessive incomes.

 

Well if it doesn't, it is useless in your argument.

 

What is it smart guy?

 

Yep. If you are a doctor and want to get rich we have the perfect system